Originally Posted by djliquidsteele (Post 1975651)

It may be my ignorance of V8's, but why do the collectors on the headers taper so far down and them open back up? It seems like it would be restrictive.

Originally Posted by eikond (Post 1893742)

I agree completely.

You can get a Sikky (or a few others) LS1 swap kit for a 240sx for under $2k. (engine and trans mounts, oil pan, driveshaft,) Sikky is $1750.

Weapons Grade offers the identical parts + brake master cylinder for $3750. I know that master cylinder isn't worth $2k. :)


You can actually buy parts for the 240sx LS1 swap a-la-carte from Enjuku and get them for less (mounts for $300, Oil Pan for $400, DS for $300, headers $600, power steering kit for $300, BMC for $250, and converted wire harness for $600 = Grand total of $2750)




Now for the BRZ/FRS:
I know the world revolves around supply and demand.. so as other companies get into the game they will certainly drive down prices. I would expect WGP to charge a bit of a premium to start because they have put so much R&D into it. But I think double the price of a base install kit is a little high.

The big part of a full swap kit would have to be the electrical (wiring/ecu stuff) to make sure everythings works properly.. that's certainly the hard part.. and can certainly be expensive.. So i'm sure this is going to keep the prices high for a while. At least until some pioneering forum member does it all from scratch (successfully) and shares the results.


*note.. I'm not saying I would do an LS1 swap or that I think it's the best option for this car.. just commenting on the costs vs. other platforms to see what is a reasonable price for swap kits.

Originally Posted by Aaronimoe (Post 2002631)

What will you be doing with your old engine?

Originally Posted by cf6mech (Post 1890461)

btw that engine is for sale and someone is going to get a swinging deal on it. I gotta have 20k wrapped up in that thing over the cost of the engine itself.

Originally Posted by Aaronimoe (Post 2002631)

What will you be doing with your old engine?

Originally Posted by VacantSky (Post 2002999)

This is in Plano TX? Any chance I could take a look, depending on their shop hours? I'm not from the area but I visit it often, I have a friend in McKinney. I'll be there the 7-10th November. Really would like to consider an LS swap one day and it would be cool to see one up close while in progress.

Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 2003307)

The radiator can be moved forward on the lower mounts very easily by just drilling new holes for the lower posts and grinding that tab off the frame.

I did this on my turbo install to gain extra clearance.

In your pics, you can see how easy it is to do. Grind tab, drill holes, and move forward over 1''.

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2003388)

Nice idea.

Were there any issues with the upper mounts and/or hoses when you did that? Did it cause any fitment issues with your intercooler?

Originally Posted by BLKWOLF (Post 2051140)

So in on this.

Good to see some more competition in the LS swap mounting kit. I can accept all the price factors except 8K for the mounting when it is so much lower in cars like S14s where the novelty has faded.

If you can find a used 2013 FRs for under $20K there must be a route for having the reliable excitement of a vette motor in one of these for considerably less than the cost of an entire used corvette at $50K.

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1888813)

Loved my LS1 in my '02 Camaro SS. Beast of an engine and a torque monster. That wasn't even a built engine... that's the scary part.

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2124359)

any updates @cf6mech?

Originally Posted by cf6mech (Post 2124443)

Having difficulties with the production headers......they are now sending them back for the fourth time and having problems with the turnaround times with the manufacture......Vorshlag is very anal about not only getting them right,.. but perfect. They could easily take a ball peen hammer and dent them in one last interference area but they refuse to work that way or expect customers too,.... last sticking point is the steering column shaft touching on drivers side header, passenger side was good first try...pulleys and all accessories are routed and cooling system is done......wiring for the GM engine ECU I do believe starts this week. the proposed start up date is first week of March......its been a long wait :paddle: If this wasn't going to be a Kit that could be purchased from Vorshlag I would of been driving it early last fall...... (taking one for the team)....they already had perfectly designed and engineered headers fitted from scratch ( long tubes ) in August. They got sent out to make a production run to copy.....that's were the headache lies and is also why my costs are down, allowing to do the development work for the kit, custom long tube headers run about 5k from vorshlag I've been told. For me and kit buyers it will be substantially less than half that with a production run instead of a one off design. The headers alone on similar LS conversions are worth another 50Hp.

Originally Posted by mkivalex (Post 2125313)

I doubt it will be less than 12k with the actual drivrtrain

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2125655)

If weapons grade can sell the total swap kit for $9k and make huge profit, Vorshlag will probably price under them to get more buyers. Swapping out the engine and trans and selling, could net you maybe $4k. All of which would be put forward to the swap.

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2125661)

I wouldn't trust them with my toaster after seeing this thread.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80300

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2125655)

If weapons grade can sell the total swap kit for $9k and make huge profit, Vorshlag will probably price under them to get more buyers.

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2125655)

If weapons grade can sell the total swap kit for $9k and make huge profit, Vorshlag will probably price under them to get more buyers. Swapping out the engine and trans and selling, could net you maybe $4k. All of which would be put forward to the swap.

Originally Posted by Acree (Post 2127098)

Weapons Grade Performance is a hack shop and they do sh!t work. Go talk to the guys at Vorshlag about what they think about the WGP kit. It's comical.