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jvincent 10-28-2016 05:01 PM

This seems appropriate after @cf6mech's post.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...17/111/fbd.jpg

MRS-Colin 10-28-2016 05:46 PM

Franz is an interesting guy to be around for sure. :)

C130NAV 10-29-2016 12:58 PM

Screw the Kit I want some aftermarket stuff to fit around the damn engine. LMAO!! Hurry up so I can add to my wish list. :-P

DustinS 11-17-2016 04:51 PM

Kind of apprehensive about posting this here, but more people are subscribed here. What do you think about this set-up plus an LS3 Fluidampr and Water Pump.

Driver Side Pulley Bracket

http://www.dirtydingo.com/shop/images/DD-LS-IOB-1.jpg

Low Mount Alternator Driver Side

http://www.dirtydingo.com/shop/image...S-ALT-LM-1.jpg

Low Mount Mini-A/C Bracket

http://www.dirtydingo.com/shop/images/DD-LS-AC-LM-1.jpg

Zer0 11-18-2016 08:17 PM

Looks good now put the post back up from yesterday by Vorshlag.

ILLSMOQ 11-18-2016 09:34 PM

Where did it go?

DustinS 11-19-2016 12:41 PM

Looks like all of his posts are now gone. Either he deleted them before he got banned while trying to work on Vendor status or Admin deleted them.

Zer0 11-19-2016 08:22 PM

@DustinS It looks like that accessorie set up is for the truck crank pulley. The spacing is not what you want for this swap if it does use the truck pulley. If they have the Corvette setup it's the shortest other than running a Ls4 pulley not sure what combo of parts work best. Vorshlag knows

@Art_Mighty 11-23-2016 12:14 AM

Sway bar setup?
 
Will the custom front sway bar setup you folks came up with for your alpha customer eventually be available?

DustinS 11-23-2016 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty (Post 2802135)
Will the custom front sway bar setup you folks came up with for your alpha customer eventually be available?

They have said they do plan on releasing it. Just no ETA at this point. It's good to note they never actually got one set-up and working, they are still trying to get it finished up.

@Art_Mighty 11-23-2016 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2802317)
They have said they do plan on releasing it. Just no ETA at this point. It's good to note they never actually got one set-up and working, they are still trying to get it finished up.

That's good to know. Thank you...

MRS-Colin 12-02-2016 05:22 PM

I've been focusing on getting our kit out in the wild ASAP as Vorshlag seems pretty close to release.

It's looking like we might have a few different "styles" of kits depending on what people want. The hardware will all be very similar but will have different software. I'd like to hear from other people here as to what they would like to see. I've probably already talked to a lot of you, but it might be worthwhile to hear more.

At the basic level, I've heard a lot of people just want things like power steering to work. I'll provide a module that will translate whatever signal you want from a CAN ECU to the CAN bus of the vehicle. This will include the removal of the ECU located in the passenger footwell area. This will provide functional power steering, tachometer, coolant temperature, and fuel gauge. Nothing more.

Next we will have a package that will retain the factory ECU. This is very VERY vital for any "advanced" functionality to work as things like the brake and clutch switches report to the engine control unit. Our little device used in Rick's conversion does not have additional inputs to handle all of these extra inputs so we rely on the CAN signaling from the factory ECU to report all of these to our module. With this extra step we will be able to integrate things like cruise control, factory fan control through the existing wiring, A/C, etc.

After that we really need to move up to our larger unit which will bump the cost. I'm not quite sure what everyone would need from the larger unit, but it's there. I'm also debating making custom software for everyone who contacts me, but this will be very cumbersome.

Just keeping you all in the loop!

DustinS 12-02-2016 05:28 PM

Keeping the Factory ECU and having access to Cruise Control, A/C, Traction Control? and such is what I am after. Something that acts as if the car came with the LS from the factory if possible.

aaguirre123 12-02-2016 05:56 PM

Keeping the factory ECU and be able to have power steering and AC. I can leave without track control. Also if possible a kit that will able to move back engine to have a closer 50/50 balance. I don't mind modifying the firewall.

ILLSMOQ 12-02-2016 09:52 PM

What Dustin said. All the features the car came with would be perfect

SleepingPanda 12-03-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaguirre123 (Post 2807637)
Keeping the factory ECU and be able to have power steering and AC. I can leave without track control. Also if possible a kit that will able to move back engine to have a closer 50/50 balance. I don't mind modifying the firewall.

Wouldn't it just be easier to move ballast? Like move the battery to the back. Or get a lighter front bumper support. I don't think anyone's going to just develop a special kit that moves the engine back. That would basically be designing a whole new kit. I don't think the engine is heavy enough for you to even notice the weight difference.

wooly35 12-03-2016 01:07 PM

Retaining the factory ecu sounds exactly like what I want. Ill eventually want the ac hook up once summer comes back around

MRS-Colin 12-03-2016 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooly35 (Post 2807963)
Retaining the factory ecu sounds exactly like what I want. Ill eventually want the ac hook up once summer comes back around

A/C is really the next hurdle to tackle. With our small unit I can command the factory A/C clutch, but I'm guessing most people will use the GM ECU wiring for A/C as it will work better for load compensation etc. The real hassle of selling a small unit like this without a full harness for the vehicle is that I don't get to control how everyone converts certain sections of the swap. I'm trying to work with what most people are doing

hmong337 12-03-2016 04:47 PM

So this ever gonna come out?

civicdrivr 12-04-2016 02:47 AM

I'm all for the advanced functions - power steering, abs, cruise, factory fan control, a/c, etc. Traction Control would be a bonus, even though I don't use it.

SleepingPanda 12-04-2016 09:04 AM

I'd rather have AC over traction control. Lol

aaguirre123 12-04-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleepingPanda (Post 2807946)
Wouldn't it just be easier to move ballast? Like move the battery to the back. Or get a lighter front bumper support. I don't think anyone's going to just develop a special kit that moves the engine back. That would basically be designing a whole new kit. I don't think the engine is heavy enough for you to even notice the weight difference.

Why do you care? You're not the one building the kit.

wooly35 12-04-2016 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRS-Colin (Post 2807966)
A/C is really the next hurdle to tackle. With our small unit I can command the factory A/C clutch, but I'm guessing most people will use the GM ECU wiring for A/C as it will work better for load compensation etc. The real hassle of selling a small unit like this without a full harness for the vehicle is that I don't get to control how everyone converts certain sections of the swap. I'm trying to work with what most people are doing

ah, I see. well I will be getting the wiring harness that matches the crate engine I purchased so I can use that for the A/C once I have the need for it

MRS-Colin 12-04-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooly35 (Post 2808319)
ah, I see. well I will be getting the wiring harness that matches the crate engine I purchased so I can use that for the A/C once I have the need for it

I'm figuring that most if not all people converting will be using the GM PCM for A/C clutch commanding. For All 58x PCM's I have the ability to command the A/C clutch via CAN so this won't be an issue. E40 shouldn't be hard I just haven't taken the time to sit down and figure it out yet.

MRS-Colin 12-05-2016 10:45 AM

Bunch of E40 stuff came together this morning. Might have cruise control and other advanced features just using our small device. Testing with Rick once we get some other issues sorted out.

DustinS 12-05-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmong337 (Post 2808028)
So this ever gonna come out?

Yes. They have a lot more on their plate than just this kit. Patience is key.

Sportsguy83 12-06-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRS-Colin (Post 2808589)
Bunch of E40 stuff came together this morning. Might have cruise control and other advanced features just using our small device. Testing with Rick once we get some other issues sorted out.

Each day this is looking more and more like my solution :cheers:

RGK-BRZ 12-06-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRS-Colin (Post 2807620)
I've been focusing on getting our kit out in the wild ASAP as Vorshlag seems pretty close to release.

It's looking like we might have a few different "styles" of kits depending on what people want. The hardware will all be very similar but will have different software. I'd like to hear from other people here as to what they would like to see. I've probably already talked to a lot of you, but it might be worthwhile to hear more.

At the basic level, I've heard a lot of people just want things like power steering to work. I'll provide a module that will translate whatever signal you want from a CAN ECU to the CAN bus of the vehicle. This will include the removal of the ECU located in the passenger footwell area. This will provide functional power steering, tachometer, coolant temperature, and fuel gauge. Nothing more.

Next we will have a package that will retain the factory ECU. This is very VERY vital for any "advanced" functionality to work as things like the brake and clutch switches report to the engine control unit. Our little device used in Rick's conversion does not have additional inputs to handle all of these extra inputs so we rely on the CAN signaling from the factory ECU to report all of these to our module. With this extra step we will be able to integrate things like cruise control, factory fan control through the existing wiring, A/C, etc.

After that we really need to move up to our larger unit which will bump the cost. I'm not quite sure what everyone would need from the larger unit, but it's there. I'm also debating making custom software for everyone who contacts me, but this will be very cumbersome.

Just keeping you all in the loop!


Colin,

Very interested in what you're developing here for my 2015 BRZ Premium. I'm planning to use the Vorshlag hardware, and considering using the GM 376/525 crate motor along with the matching GM ECU package. For sure, I want to keep all of the factory gauges, power steering, A/C, and ABS. Ideally, I'd like to have the option of keeping the factory traction & stability control systems, as well as the factory switches to turn them off at will.

Thanks for all your efforts on this project!

Greg

Floggin Tires 12-06-2016 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGK-BRZ (Post 2809403)
Colin,

Very interested in...
...ect.

Greg

X2,
word for word same boat.
Thanks

Dfyfzx 12-06-2016 05:21 PM

Vorshlag needs to create a T56 swap kit. They got a v8 and a beefy transmission in the chassis already so a tranny kit seems easy peasy at this point. I'm losing 4th gear as we speak. Been in contact with Spencer Fab already. First company to market with a bolt in transmission swap solution is going to make some bank!


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