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Captain Insano 02-14-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 2129447)
^ :word: I was just about to post that.

The Level 0 kit for an E36 is $3900. That's for the mounts, headers, transmission xmember, driveshaft, steering shaft, and bolts for those items. That does not include wiring, their accessory drive kit, CANBUS programming, any coolant/ac lines, or any other hard parts.

I can see all the parts being ~$8k, not including the motor or transmission. For what you're get, that still strikes me as an awesome deal.

If it is top of the line quality, I actually think that's a good deal for the peace of mind and "running like stock (but with huge torque)" when you are done. If it's priced like that, I will do it someday. Plus, you can buy stuff piece meal and not all at once. Like you could buy the engine/trans first, let it sit for 6-12 months while you save up for dose #2. then take the rest of the plunge. Or vice versa. Also curious, as with anything, typically high end modding (BMW, Audi, Merc, etc) costs more. I wonder if it might be slightly more reasonable even then that. I guess it's possible.

*need to find reasonably priced used LS drivetrain*

BRZR1 02-15-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Insano (Post 2132248)
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*need to find reasonably priced used LS drivetrain*


any junkyard for 500-1k you can get a 5.3L .... that's a good start

civicdrivr 02-16-2015 01:17 AM

Yep, I'd suggest either an LM4 or L33. Those are the aluminum block 5.3s. If you choose the right head and cam to go on them, you can make 350-400hp, and you can do it for less than $1500 ($1000 if you know where to look).

Sent from my XT1095

cdrazic93 02-16-2015 06:43 AM

I found a salvaged 2010 camaro SS with the 6.2 for $200 on a junkyard website lol, it was front end damage, but the engine bay pics looked like it was intact and fine.

mkivalex 02-16-2015 09:25 AM

Well that's a damn good deal. I'd buy that in a heartbeat

cdrazic93 02-16-2015 02:53 PM

Only problem was, I didn't have $200 readily handy lol

hmong337 02-21-2015 12:12 PM

I'd do the all aluminum LM4/L33 5.3L on a budget. It should be all the power I would ever need and be reliable too. I hope the entire swap kit will be priced near their BMW kit. Looking at ~$15k for a properly done swap will be very enticing. That's way better than sinking ~$15k into built turbo fa20 crap with questionable reliability and a glass tranny. Ultimately, it will come down to how much the handling characteristics will be thrown off. I purchased my FRS solely for its handling capabilities. I won't do anything to the car that will hinder those characteristics.

civicdrivr 02-21-2015 12:43 PM

The only downside I see with this swap would be the weight of the transmission. The T56 is a heavy bastard, and it sits biased towards the front of the car slightly. I don't think the engine itself would be much heavier, if at all. Aluminum LS blocks are surprisingly light.

For me, it's not how much weight this swap gains, it's where it puts that weight. I hope they post corner balance numbers when it's completed.

Sent from my XT1095

Bawlz 03-01-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 2129447)
^ :word: I was just about to post that.

The Level 0 kit for an E36 is $3900. That's for the mounts, headers, transmission xmember, driveshaft, steering shaft, and bolts for those items. That does not include wiring, their accessory drive kit, CANBUS programming, any coolant/ac lines, or any other hard parts.

I can see all the parts being ~$8k, not including the motor or transmission. For what you're get, that still strikes me as an awesome deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2134011)
I found a salvaged 2010 camaro SS with the 6.2 for $200 on a junkyard website lol, it was front end damage, but the engine bay pics looked like it was intact and fine.

Hey, WGP dropped their kit down to $8k to compete! To bad their kit is much lower quality.
I'm guessing the complete kit will end up costing $6500-$7500 which would be amazing & just what this platform needs. I just wish there were more transmission that could fit, heck I wouldn't mind a 6L90e working. At least then I'd have one more part from a salvaged Camaro.

A few days ago I found a stripped BRZ at an auction without it's engine, trans, seats or radio equipment. If I can find a 2010+ Camaro SS manual with it's engine & trans then I'll be in business!

Can't wait for more updates!

inertia 03-01-2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bawlz (Post 2152320)
Hey, WGP dropped their kit down to $8k to compete! To bad their kit is much lower quality.
I'm guessing the complete kit will end up costing $6500-$7500 which would be amazing & just what this platform needs. I just wish there were more transmission that could fit, heck I wouldn't mind a 6L90e working. At least then I'd have one more part from a salvaged Camaro.

A few days ago I found a stripped BRZ at an auction without it's engine, trans, seats or radio equipment. If I can find a 2010+ Camaro SS manual with it's engine & trans then I'll be in business!

what did you end up getting it for?

Bawlz 03-02-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by inertia (Post 2152696)
what did you end up getting it for?

Almost $5k after delivery

civicdrivr 03-02-2015 02:30 PM

Wow. Color me jelly.

Jaden 03-02-2015 05:26 PM

Yep I remember posting...
 
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 2153305)
Wow. Color me jelly.

i remember posting that you could get a stripped twin for 5-6K and then a wrecked camaro for 8-9.

You're looking at a total for a 420 hp car of 25K and then add an e-force supercharger and you've got a 600hp carb legal twin weighing less than 3Klbs for 35K...

And people try to say that the twins aren't the best bang for buck out there...lol

Jaden

FirestormFRS 03-02-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaden (Post 2153565)
i remember posting that you could get a stripped twin for 5-6K and then a wrecked camaro for 8-9.

You're looking at a total for a 420 hp car of 25K and then add an e-force supercharger and you've got a 600hp carb legal twin weighing less than 3Klbs for 35K...

And people try to say that the twins aren't the best bang for buck out there...lol

Jaden

You guys done derailing this mans thread with your pipe dream engine swap talk? Seriously start your own thread.


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