Originally Posted by cf6mech (Post 2124443)

Having difficulties with the production headers......they are now sending them back for the fourth time and having problems with the turnaround times with the manufacture......Vorshlag is very anal about not only getting them right,.. but perfect. They could easily take a ball peen hammer and dent them in one last interference area but they refuse to work that way or expect customers too,.... last sticking point is the steering column shaft touching on drivers side header, passenger side was good first try...pulleys and all accessories are routed and cooling system is done......wiring for the GM engine ECU I do believe starts this week. the proposed start up date is first week of March......its been a long wait :paddle: If this wasn't going to be a Kit that could be purchased from Vorshlag I would of been driving it early last fall...... (taking one for the team)....they already had perfectly designed and engineered headers fitted from scratch ( long tubes ) in August. They got sent out to make a production run to copy.....that's were the headache lies and is also why my costs are down, allowing to do the development work for the kit, custom long tube headers run about 5k from vorshlag I've been told. For me and kit buyers it will be substantially less than half that with a production run instead of a one off design. The headers alone on similar LS conversions are worth another 50Hp.

Originally Posted by mkivalex (Post 2125313)

I doubt it will be less than 12k with the actual drivrtrain

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2125655)

If weapons grade can sell the total swap kit for $9k and make huge profit, Vorshlag will probably price under them to get more buyers. Swapping out the engine and trans and selling, could net you maybe $4k. All of which would be put forward to the swap.

Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 2125661)

I wouldn't trust them with my toaster after seeing this thread.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80300

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2125655)

If weapons grade can sell the total swap kit for $9k and make huge profit, Vorshlag will probably price under them to get more buyers.

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 2125655)

If weapons grade can sell the total swap kit for $9k and make huge profit, Vorshlag will probably price under them to get more buyers. Swapping out the engine and trans and selling, could net you maybe $4k. All of which would be put forward to the swap.

Originally Posted by Acree (Post 2127098)

Weapons Grade Performance is a hack shop and they do sh!t work. Go talk to the guys at Vorshlag about what they think about the WGP kit. It's comical.

Originally Posted by civicdrivr (Post 2129447)

^ :word: I was just about to post that.

The Level 0 kit for an E36 is $3900. That's for the mounts, headers, transmission xmember, driveshaft, steering shaft, and bolts for those items. That does not include wiring, their accessory drive kit, CANBUS programming, any coolant/ac lines, or any other hard parts.

I can see all the parts being ~$8k, not including the motor or transmission. For what you're get, that still strikes me as an awesome deal.