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zdr93523 08-07-2014 12:07 AM

Totally agree.

Dephective 08-07-2014 02:27 AM

I've had my car visit the dealer on 7 occasions, now on my 4th dealer, for numerous clutch/transmission issues. Crunchy 2nd and 3rd gears going up or down, loud and rough clutch engagement and plate sticking, clutch sounding like rod knock when cold, clutch fork squeaking, etc. Previous dealership visits always came back with the normal excuse that it's "normal operation" and they compared it to one they had on their lot. The visit before this current one had corporate involved and sent out a factory tech, who said "normal", although I was unable to demonstrate my issues when I went to pick the car up (just my luck).

Fast forward to now, I decided to try a dealership that is known for being more helpful, although is about a 35minute drive without traffic one way. I dropped the car off last night, told them to leave it cold overnight. Drove back this morning, and was able to get all of my issues to present with the shop foreman (fucking finally!). Was told that he is just waiting on corporate to give him the go ahead on what they find would be called for replacement. Hopefully I find out tomorrow what all they are replacing.

I went in with all current mods: shifter bushing, complete rear transmission mount, nameless op/fp, coilovers, rear control arms. Trans fluid was replaced with factory fill at 13k miles, replaced with Motul at 13,500. Neither of which fixed my crunchiness and hesitation and sometimes outright denial to enter gears.

Issues presented themselves at 1500 miles, currently at 14,2xx miles. I will post when I find out anything. I've been putting off my plans for the car because of this very issue not being solved. It has gotten to the point where I will most likely sell the car if I can't get this issue resolved.

sweetfrs 08-07-2014 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Accurate Race Shop (Post 1886069)
I am a real estate appraiser aside from my weekend job helping people with their muscle cars. As an appraiser I am lied to every day.. I swear every house has imported cabinets from France. If you go back and he sees the mods like the bushings I would be ready cough up $4k for a new transmission after they deny your claim. Not trying to be mean but when someone comes to your work and tries to play you for a fool you normally do not respond well. If I were you I would have the trans stock before you go back in and let them get it on a lift.

Sent from my Q10

i don't think they could deny my claim because its grinding in 4th gear, a sts or bushing wouldn't cause this


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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1886093)
IF YOU HAVE TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS GO TO THE FREAK'N DEALER AND TELL THEM! WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO BRING THIS UP SO IT CAN BECOME A RECALL AND NOT A WARRANTY FIGHT. my car does this as well, its bad syncros and my dealer tells me im the first one in the area to mention it.(possibly a lie) Everyone that has a syncro problem needs to file a claim with Toyota so this can get fixed. this has nothing to do with mods or power, its a faulty syncro and if everyone that's moded the car is afraid to tell their dealer this wont get resolved.

yea the guy said he had 2 other frs's come in with the same problem and he said he was surprised there isn't a recall yet

Turkish 08-07-2014 03:36 AM

Mine was replaced under warranty for the 5th synchro grinding, the tech drove it for about 1 minute and got it to grind. They didn't even ask about mods, but my dealer is cool about that.

sweetfrs 08-07-2014 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Turkish (Post 1886422)
Mine was replaced under warranty for the 5th synchro grinding, the tech drove it for about 1 minute and got it to grind. They didn't even ask about mods, but my dealer is cool about that.

they replaced the whole transmission ?

Accurate Race Shop 08-07-2014 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetfrs (Post 1886464)
they replaced the whole transmission ?

That is what is happening to everyone's that isn't denied. In my state there have been 2 full replacements I know of, mine will be the 3rd and one person that was told to kick rocks because he has a turbo so he is putting an aftermarket trans in the car.

Sent from my Q10

Turkish 08-07-2014 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetfrs (Post 1886464)
they replaced the whole transmission ?

Yes, put yours back to stock like others have mentioned and it will likely be replaced. If you leave your mods on, it may be declined and you will be up shit creek without a paddle.

stugray 08-07-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetfrs (Post 1886378)
i don't think they could deny my claim because its grinding in 4th gear, a sts or bushing wouldn't cause this

They could DEFINITELY argue that a short shift kit could cause syncho problems because it shifts faster.

They could (try to) make the case that the faster shifting is harder on the synchros.
I am not, in any way, arguing on the part of the dealers, just why make it harder for yourself?
Let me guess - You did not install the mods/parts, and dont know how to remove them.

zdr93523 08-07-2014 12:03 PM

@enivid

enivid 08-07-2014 12:48 PM

I'm going to roll in with my FI car. We'll see if they deny me.

sweetfrs 08-07-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stugray (Post 1886739)
They could DEFINITELY argue that a short shift kit could cause syncho problems because it shifts faster.

They could (try to) make the case that the faster shifting is harder on the synchros.
I am not, in any way, arguing on the part of the dealers, just why make it harder for yourself?
Let me guess - You did not install the mods/parts, and dont know how to remove them.

No it's just a hassle, like for the shifter I gotta take the whole center console apart again

Reaper 08-07-2014 08:15 PM

the best part about this, is my turbo puts less stress on the syncros than a short throw shifter does yet im going to have to convince a service manager that.

sweetfrs 08-08-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1887802)
the best part about this, is my turbo puts less stress on the syncros than a short throw shifter does yet im going to have to convince a service manager that.

I would think it would put more stress :popcorn:

sweetfrs 08-08-2014 10:24 PM

So I took the short shifter out all that is left is the whiteline shifter bushing do I really need to take it out?


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