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JPxM0Dz 07-30-2014 04:37 PM

Crash test IIHS Small Overlap - Subaru BRZ - Toyota GT-86
 
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB7rdzicu7c"]Crash test IIHS Small Overlap - Subaru BRZ - Toyota GT-86 - YouTube[/ame]

t.chk 07-30-2014 04:45 PM

It slightly concerns me a rating of "acceptable". That does not represent "no significant bodily injury" as I read it.

jgardner 07-30-2014 07:18 PM

I'd assume broken ankles at a minimum based on what I saw happening with the front wheel.

Poodles 07-31-2014 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by t.chk (Post 1873748)
It slightly concerns me a rating of "acceptable". That does not represent "no significant bodily injury" as I read it.



Keep in mind very very few cars are even doing this well on this specific test. It's a new test and the car is simply not engineered for it.

EAGLE5 07-31-2014 02:41 AM

Still a top safety pick by the IIHS. We bought a new Forester specifically because it aced this test. I've seen maybe 20 different cars do the small offset test. The FRS did better than the majority of those cars.

Here is the full FRS report:
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/veh...014?print-view

Here is what bad results look like, with a Prius v:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj-oPkXpAnA"]2012 Toyota Prius v small overlap IIHS crash test - YouTube[/ame]

I think the biggest cause of foot well incursion, which isn't that bad even then, is how the wheel didn't break. It put a lot of energy in down low. I bet a nice, cheap aftermarket rim would shatter, reducing the damage down there.

Look at how the Forester wheel collapses:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThtOh6_AvfQ"]2014 Subaru Forester small overlap IIHS crash test - YouTube[/ame]

The steering wheel moved too far to the right. The side airbag doesn't cover far enough forward.

It did worse than I had hoped but as well as I expected.

EAGLE5 07-31-2014 02:44 AM

Also, the test is said to apply to 2013 and onward models built after December 2013, which doesn't make any sense. I think they stopped building the 2013 models in mid-2013.

dpesce 07-31-2014 03:33 PM

Just saw this as well! Was waiting for them to do the small overlap. Very impressed considering how other vehicles fail miserably. That FIAT makes me CRINGE... Fix It Again Tony....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvs7A8tMqkk"]Small car ratings run gamut in small overlap crash tests - IIHS News - YouTube[/ame]A8tMqkk

t.chk 07-31-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1874687)
Keep in mind very very few cars are even doing this well on this specific test. It's a new test and the car is simply not engineered for it.

yea I knew it was a new test...and every manufacturer got hit in the teeth with it. I just thought since 'racecar' they would take offset hit to the median into account haha.

DAEMANO 07-31-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dpesce (Post 1875638)
Just saw this as well! Was waiting for them to do the small overlap. Very impressed considering how other vehicles fail miserably. That FIAT makes me CRINGE... Fix It Again Tony....

Small car ratings run gamut in small overlap crash tests - IIHS News - YouTubeA8tMqkk

No disrespect man but...

I cringe every time I hear Fix it Again Tony used to reference any Fiat cars built after 1990. That joke is about maintenance and reliability (not crash safety) from 3 decades ago. I'm old enough to know. Those cars are unrelated in every way but name to Fiat's current models.

Almost every mini car
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/news/deskto...tal-protection

Small car
http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/buy...icle-1.1885630

More than half of small SUVs
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/v/c...ary/small-suvs

...receive either marginal or poor ratings for the small overlap test. The small overlap is a relatively new test that is raising the bar for crash safety. The simple fact is, most cars older than 3-4 years old would fail this test miserably. That probably includes nearly car every person has ridden in during their lifetimes. In 2012 nearly all mid-size sedans "failed" this test.

http://i.imgur.com/UeoMN7w.jpg

Auto mfgs hadn't begun designing cars with the small overlap test it in mind until the last 3 years and it's going to be a while before cars of makes, models, and sizes can regularly "pass" this test. That btw is what makes the FR-S / BRZ's excellent performance so darn epic.

gramicci101 07-31-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 1874733)
I bet a nice, cheap aftermarket rim would shatter, reducing the damage down there.

And that's why Rotas are good. Shattering isn't a liability, it's a safety feature!

dpesce 08-05-2014 11:50 AM

DAEMANO: I know what the joke was used for, my grandfather owned one and first auto tech teacher owned one and they have told many stories of the joy of ownership. However, I still don't consider it misuse or even mildly cringe-worthy to use the phrase in this setting. That car did not look structurally sound... And, Carbuzz doesn't disagree: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/1...-Fail-7721744/

Oh, FIAT also dominated the competition in a recent JD Power study. :)

"The three brands where owners reported the most problems were Mitsubishi, with 145 problems per vehicle, Jeep, with 146, and Fiat, with 206."
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/new-vehicle-buyers-report-more-problems-j-d-power-study-n134681

Don't get me wrong, nothing against Sergio Marchionne and the Fiat Chrysler Automobiles as a whole, but I'll stick to the BRZ. :party0030:

superleggera 08-06-2014 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpesce (Post 1875638)
Just saw this as well! Was waiting for them to do the small overlap. Very impressed considering how other vehicles fail miserably. That FIAT makes me CRINGE... Fix It Again Tony....

Small car ratings run gamut in small overlap crash tests - IIHS News - YouTubeA8tMqkk

I think I just spent an hour watching these small overlap crashes on youtube :popcorn:


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