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edeekeos 07-26-2014 07:45 PM

Ok the 2.0 EL E85 B01C tune clearly has some issues. 1.59 feels like it's supposed to, zero issues whatsoever. Without giving it a whole lot of learning time, my FT was well below 4's, and AFR is right at 11.8-9 under WOT.

Shiv@Openflash 07-26-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by edeekeos (Post 1867309)
Ok the 2.0 EL E85 B01C tune clearly has some issues. 1.59 feels like it's supposed to, zero issues whatsoever. Without giving it a whole lot of learning time, my FT was well below 4's, and AFR is right at 11.8-9 under WOT.

The E85 maps have been run by beta testers for a few weeks now. No other reports of such a problem. A brief glimpse of the mapping data itself shows no issues either as it is identical to the Stage 2.0 EL A01C file that I compared it to. Are you sure you are letting the car idle for 60 seconds after the flash and before touching the accelerator. It almost sounds like you are driving off to early before VVT does it self diagnostic and enables. But maybe others can chime in with their experience with the E85 maps.

edeekeos 07-26-2014 08:01 PM

Yeah, I did everything as should. I just went back to the 1.59 map using the identical methods, and it is perfectly fine. Not sure whats up. I will re-download the maps, and flash again, and see whats up. Thanks for the quick responses! :thumbup:

ScionFrsFan 07-26-2014 08:35 PM

Running the new el stage 2 e85 map and the engine doesn't sound so good starting up? Anyone notice a sound difference?

Shiv@Openflash 07-26-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by edeekeos (Post 1867324)
Yeah, I did everything as should. I just went back to the 1.59 map using the identical methods, and it is perfectly fine. Not sure whats up. I will re-download the maps, and flash again, and see whats up. Thanks for the quick responses! :thumbup:

No problem. I'll also test it in our frs later tonight. It's currently running e85 so easy test to do :)

edeekeos 07-26-2014 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 1867365)
No problem. I'll also test it in our frs later tonight. It's currently running e85 so easy test to do :)

Wonderful. Thanks so much!

Apoc 07-26-2014 09:22 PM

I have loaded up v2.0 Stage 2 UEL 93oct put 120 kms on my FRS. Here are some datalogs if I could get the old J.V. style "looks good' from Shiv it would be greatly appreciated.:D
(trick answer: J.V. wouldn't look at the logs)

http://datazap.me/u/dmmccrea/july-26...zoom=1495-2580

Shiv@Openflash 07-26-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 1867412)
I have loaded up v2.0 Stage 2 UEL 93oct put 120 kms on my FRS. Here are some datalogs if I could get the old J.V. style "looks good' from Shiv it would be greatly appreciated.:D
(trick answer: J.V. wouldn't look at the logs)

http://datazap.me/u/dmmccrea/july-26...zoom=1495-2580

Looks fine but a little rich. Not really costing you much power though. What header are u using? Any other mods?

Apoc 07-26-2014 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 1867416)
Looks fine but a little rich. Not really costing you much power though. What header are u using? Any other mods?

I'm using the best header ever OFH. I have TRD intake also. I'm 3400 ft elev. too.

dodouble 07-26-2014 09:31 PM

not sure if stupid question, if it is im sure someone will point out why...
since us folks here in canada are in north america usdm market is the same as ours?
simpler put can i use this now?

Apoc 07-26-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodouble (Post 1867422)
not sure if stupid question, if it is im sure someone will point out why...
since us folks here in canada are in north america usdm market is the same as ours?
simpler put can i use this now?

You may need to have translated to french...

But seriously you should be good to go.

dodouble 07-26-2014 09:39 PM

thanks for the info, im actually billingual. my grammar in english is horrible though.

fast_dude 07-26-2014 09:51 PM

Got what I needed.

wparsons 07-26-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodouble (Post 1867422)
not sure if stupid question, if it is im sure someone will point out why...
since us folks here in canada are in north america usdm market is the same as ours?
simpler put can i use this now?

You'll be fine, I've been on 1.6b and 2.0b for a few weeks now.

Updated to stage 1 93 octane tonight with a fresh tank of Petra 94, I'll get enough km's on it tomorrow morning to give it a good test at an autox.

Optimus Prime 07-26-2014 10:21 PM

So I flashed the A01D stage 1 93 octane map and immediately got CEL code P0700. I cleared it and after 20 miles or so it still hasn't come back. Anything to worry about?

Also wanted to say thanks Shiv! Such a huge difference between stock and with a flash. Even the lowly auto feels quick (though I know it's not).

Shiv@Openflash 07-26-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Optimus Prime (Post 1867504)
So I flashed the A01D stage 1 93 octane map and immediately got CEL code P0700. I cleared it and after 20 miles or so it still hasn't come back. Anything to worry about?

Also wanted to say thanks Shiv! Such a huge difference between stock and with a flash. Even the lowly auto feels quick (though I know it's not).

I think that code is normal after flashing a 6at car. It's a transmission control unit error caused by a communication loss during the ecu flashing process. You can clear it like you did or just let it reset itself after a few drive cycles. No harm either way.

Walla Walla 07-26-2014 11:42 PM

dont know if i've missed a post but will their be any tune stage 2 BPB ? or should we take the new stage 2 2.0?
@Shiv@Openflash

i'm not complaining if their wont be any update on this, as I see everything new you give on this product as a bonus :)

Shiv@Openflash 07-27-2014 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edeekeos (Post 1867378)
Wonderful. Thanks so much!

Update: Just tested the v2.01 Stage 2 EL E85 A01C in the shop car (already running E85) and no problem whatsoever. Ran great right out of the gate. And all the other CAL IDs versions for this tune are identical so I don't think there is anything wrong.

I'm not sure if this applies to you, but you are likely to run into some rough running upon start-up if you just switched over to E85 (from gasoline) and flashed the E85 map. This is because there is still some gasoline in the fuel lines (between fuel tank and fuel injectors) that need to be burned off. This only takes a couple minutes of driving (or at lot longer if the engine is just idling). During that time you will be running rich and a little rough with very negative fuel trims. It will magically clear itself within a minutes. During that time, just drive normally and refrain from going WOT as you will be disappointed in the performance. But once the gasoline burns off, you will be back in business and running very nicely. Again, I'm not sure if this explains your situation but just a thought.

Cheers
Shiv

Shiv@Openflash 07-27-2014 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walla Walla (Post 1867571)
dont know if i've missed a post but will their be any tune stage 2 BPB ? or should we take the new stage 2 2.0?
@Shiv@Openflash

i'm not complaining if their wont be any update on this, as I see everything new you give on this product as a bonus :)

Instead of making releasing another 132 maps for BPB use, I'm post a thread this week on how to convert any map into a BPB version of that map. Long story short, it just involves making some changes to a couple ignition timing related maps. Very simple and anyone can do it through ROM Raider. It's just gotten to the point were we have so many maps for so many different set-ups that doubling the amount of maps isn't quite prudent (for my sanity!) :)

Cheers,
shiv

Mad1723 07-27-2014 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 1867618)
Instead of making releasing another 132 maps for BPB use, I'm post a thread this week on how to convert any map into a BPB version of that map. Long story short, it just involves making some changes to a couple ignition timing related maps. Very simple and anyone can do it through ROM Raider. It's just gotten to the point were we have so many maps for so many different set-ups that doubling the amount of maps isn't quite prudent (for my sanity!) :)

Cheers,
shiv

With all your Porsche, FI, Miata projects, you'll have to find a way to automate that shit, otherwise, you'll have to hire an intern doing just that :D

steve99 07-27-2014 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 1867421)
I'm using the best header ever OFH. I have TRD intake also. I'm 3400 ft elev. too.

The ecu has an atmospheric pressure sensor and tables in the maping to compensate for altitude changes :D

steve99 07-27-2014 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 1867618)
Instead of making releasing another 132 maps for BPB use, I'm post a thread this week on how to convert any map into a BPB version of that map. Long story short, it just involves making some changes to a couple ignition timing related maps. Very simple and anyone can do it through ROM Raider. It's just gotten to the point were we have so many maps for so many different set-ups that doubling the amount of maps isn't quite prudent (for my sanity!) :)

Cheers,
shiv

Hey shiv @Shiv@Openflash couldn,t you mod the OFT firmware slightly to allow OFT to flash any
map of the same series ie any C series map, then you would only have to produce 1 map based on the latest rom for that series rom for each tune. Ie instead of the OFT checking for say 700C 900C A00C A01C B00C B01C it just checked for xxxC then flashed tune for that series based on the latest ROM. That is effectivly what it does anyway but its checking to stringently so your having to produce 6 maps when you only need 1. Its still holding the vin and the overall series ie C so its married to car and stopping people flashing incorrect series ROM but cuts down your maps by factor of 6 in this case. :D

phrosty 07-27-2014 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 1867783)
Hey shiv @Shiv@Openflash couldn,t you mod the OFT firmware slightly to allow OFT to flash any
map of the same series ie any C series map, then you would only have to produce 1 map based on the latest rom for that series rom for each tune. Ie instead of the OFT checking for say 700C 900C A00C A01C B00C B01C it just checked for xxxC then flashed tune for that series based on the latest ROM. That is effectivly what it does anyway but its checking to stringently so your having to produce 6 maps when you only need 1. Its still holding the vin and the overall series ie C so its married to car and stopping people flashing incorrect series ROM but cuts down your maps by factor of 6 in this case. :D

I've wondered this too. It would not be difficult to make an app take a ROM, XML, and apply these changes dynamically. Hand-editing and distributing hundreds of ROM files is not a scalable solution!

bfrank1972 07-27-2014 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phrosty (Post 1867811)
I've wondered this too. It would not be difficult to make an app take a ROM, XML, and apply these changes dynamically. Hand-editing and distributing hundreds of ROM files is not a scalable solution!


Yes, a map 'patcher'


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tonystewart 07-27-2014 10:18 AM

Has anyone with custom tuning upgraded to this newest version?

steve99 07-27-2014 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonystewart (Post 1867870)
Has anyone with custom tuning upgraded to this newest version?


Not me, but probably the best you could do would be to copy your MAF scale to the new V2.01 tune as you have aftermarket CAI.

tonystewart 07-27-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 1867872)
Not me, but probably the best you could do would be to copy your MAF scale to the new V2.01 tune as you have aftermarket CAI.

Thanks, I need to contact Shiv and ask him for this

Kids Heart 07-27-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodouble (Post 1867443)
thanks for the info, im actually billingual. my grammar in english is horrible though.

So is Americans.

BolognaWalrus 07-27-2014 10:45 AM

Wow, I have to say these new maps run AMAZING! Car pulls harder and runs much smoother! Thanks Shiv!

raven1231 07-27-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 1867878)
So is Americans.

I speak perfect Murican!

wbradley 07-27-2014 12:16 PM

Question-

I am running older version 93 octane stock tune.

Which file should I use in the Beta 2.0, also 700C?

Silver Ignition 07-27-2014 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash (Post 1867618)
Instead of making releasing another 132 maps for BPB use, I'm post a thread this week on how to convert any map into a BPB version of that map. Long story short, it just involves making some changes to a couple ignition timing related maps. Very simple and anyone can do it through ROM Raider. It's just gotten to the point were we have so many maps for so many different set-ups that doubling the amount of maps isn't quite prudent (for my sanity!) :)

Cheers,
shiv

Been trying to find an answer for this. Thanks.

ScionFR-S 07-27-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1867945)
Question-

I am running older version 93 octane stock tune.

Which file should I use in the Beta 2.0, also 700C?

Look at your cal id when you open up the ofm is should say something like A00D A01D A00C etc.... Whatever those last four digits are is the flash that you choose!!! Very important not to flash the wrong one and the new ones are beta V2.01

Shiv@Openflash 07-27-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScionFR-S (Post 1867988)
Look at your cal id when you open up the ofm is should say something like A00D A01D A00C etc.... Whatever those last four digits are is the flash that you choose!!! Very important not to flash the wrong one and the new ones are beta V2.01

The good news is that OF Manager software won't let you upload a ROM with the wrong CAL ID. It will give you an error message for incompatible file :)

wbradley 07-27-2014 02:23 PM

Thanks. Seems a bit peppier!

CaptainSlow 07-27-2014 02:25 PM

Still unable to get the FFS and LC to work. I deleted the XML files that were released with v2.00 and replaced them with the XML files released with v2.01. Before, the tables would show up, but the FFS/LC options weren't there. Now, with the v2.01 XML files only, I don't get anything to load. Not sure if I need both sets (the ones that started with "RR_" from v2.0 and the ones that started with "OFT_" from v2.01) or if I'm doing something else wrong?

CaptainSlow 07-27-2014 02:31 PM

Nevermind...figured it out.

To get the XML files from 2.01 to work, you have to change the first part from "OFT_" to "RR_". The tunes probably point to that RR_ prefix because that was how it was named in the original 2.0 release. Changed "OFT_ZA1JA01C.xml" to "RR_ZA1JA01C.xml" and it worked, with the LC/FFS tables present at the bottom.

Shiv@Openflash 07-27-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow (Post 1868069)
Nevermind...figured it out.

To get the XML files from 2.01 to work, you have to change the first part from "OFT_" to "RR_". The tunes probably point to that RR_ prefix because that was how it was named in the original 2.0 release. Changed "OFT_ZA1JA01C.xml" to "RR_ZA1JA01C.xml" and it worked, with the LC/FFS tables present at the bottom.

You don't necessarily have to rename the new XML files. Just go to XML manager in Rom Raider, deselect old XMLs and select new ones.

CaptainSlow 07-27-2014 02:36 PM

Ah, OK...I wasn't sure how to do that in the software itself. Thanks!

Jrdad 07-27-2014 02:54 PM

@Shiv@Openflash will there be a table to adjust the cold start idle, preferably with the excessive valve overlap on initial start?


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