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arcinthesky 05-27-2012 10:51 PM
Stock tires
 
My dealer said that the car comes with Michelin all-season tires.

Anyone know which one it is?

Is it better than the summer Michelin Primacy HP 215/45R17 Green X?

2pt5RS 05-27-2012 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by arcinthesky (Post 227853)
My dealer said that the car comes with Michelin all-season tires.

Anyone know which one it is?

Is it better than the summer Michelin Primacy HP 215/45R17 Green X?
they are primacy HP, but they're a summer tire, not all season. At least here in the states. It may be different in Canadia

Jeff Lange 05-28-2012 02:33 AM
Car I drove had the Primacy HP's on them, and while they are classed as a summer tire, not an all-season tire, I found their performance to be very lacking. Tires would be one of the first things I'd do when I got my car.

Jeff

stateless 05-28-2012 02:42 AM
It's Primacy HP and not all-season in Canada too, unless the dealer is switching it themselves. Let your dealer know that the car also doesn't come in pink, run on unicorn blood, or have an optional flux capacitor. They don't appear well informed.

Aznek 05-28-2012 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lange (Post 228057)
Car I drove had the Primacy HP's on them, and while they are classed as a summer tire, not an all-season tire, I found their performance to be very lacking. Tires would be one of the first things I'd do when I got my car.

Jeff
What do you do with your old tires?

Klinn 05-28-2012 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Aznek (Post 228200)
What do you do with your old tires?
Keep them for when I sell the car. The next owner gets nice new tires, I get stickier ones to enjoy in the meantime.

Not as convenient though if you don't have a nice cool basement to store them in.

Jeff Lange 05-28-2012 12:57 PM
You usually have 4 choices:

1. Throw them out. Why would you ever do this? It's a bad choice.
2. Have the new tires worked into the deal when you buy the car, and see if the dealership will give you something for the original "take-off" tires. This will usually not be very much, but it will help a bit.
3. Sell them on Craigslist/Kijiji/eBay/Classifieds, not a bad choice.
4. Keep them and put them back on the car to sell it. You've basically got a brand new set of tires just waiting for when you sell the car.

Jeff

moniz 05-28-2012 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Klinn (Post 228324)
Keep them for when I sell the car. The next owner gets nice new tires, I get stickier ones to enjoy in the meantime.

Not as convenient though if you don't have a nice cool basement to store them in.

As long as you sell them with the car under 6 years old. Tires after that at age, even if not used the rubber compounds start to deteriorate. 20/20 years ago did an expose on the dangers of old news unused tire sold as new. Dealers were getting away with it because the majority of people don't understand how to read the production date codes on the sidewall. And being America, you know the lawsuits started flying!

Just a FYI so you can cover you butt!

Klinn 05-28-2012 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by moniz (Post 228466)
As long as you sell them with the car under 6 years old. Tires after that at age, even if not used the rubber compounds start to deteriorate. 20/20 years ago did an expose on the dangers of old news unused tire sold as new.
Good point, and storage technique is important. That's why I mentioned a "cool dark basement", plus they should be isolated in another room from any possible sources of ozone, e.g. an electric blower motor for your furnace. Probably the quality of the tire itself also plays a role.

Last year I put my BMW's original tires back on. Stored for 7 years. They've been working fine for the past year, even under <ahem> brisk driving conditions. Should easily provide another couple of years of motoring for the next owner.

Saibot 05-29-2012 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Aznek (Post 228200)
What do you do with your old tires?
im gona abuse em for drifting :burnrubber:

dadream 06-07-2012 05:53 PM
Can anyone be more precise on those tire performances? should i invest in new/better ones ?? can the driving be SIGNIFICANTLY improved ???

Thanks guys!
H.

Klinn 06-08-2012 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dadream (Post 247106)
Can anyone be more precise on those tire performances?
If I was just using the car on the street I wouldn't bother upgrading until the OEM tires wore out. Once you've gotten used to your car for a few years and it needs new tires, try a set of high performance tires so you can feel the difference yourself.

I'm changing them right away since I'll be using the car in Solo2 racing. Tire performance is important once you get into that sort of thing. Although even in that case, it is better for a rookie to start on the OEM tires. Sticky tires can cover up the sorts of mistakes we all make when starting out. Gotta learn to be smooth first, then speed follows.

You might be interested in checking out the autocross club in Montreal, CADL. http://cadl.qc.ca/portail/index.php?name=PNphpBB2

BioRage 06-08-2012 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2pt5RS (Post 227855)
they are primacy HP, but they're a summer tire, not all season. At least here in the states. It may be different in Canadia
95% of Canadian cars are standard with All-Seasons.

dadream 06-08-2012 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Klinn (Post 248092)
If I was just using the car on the street I wouldn't bother upgrading until the OEM tires wore out. Once you've gotten used to your car for a few years and it needs new tires, try a set of high performance tires so you can feel the difference yourself.

I'm changing them right away since I'll be using the car in Solo2 racing. Tire performance is important once you get into that sort of thing. Although even in that case, it is better for a rookie to start on the OEM tires. Sticky tires can cover up the sorts of mistakes we all make when starting out. Gotta learn to be smooth first, then speed follows.

You might be interested in checking out the autocross club in Montreal, CADL. http://cadl.qc.ca/portail/index.php?name=PNphpBB2
Thanks for the help man! I would've "thanked you" the proper way, but i can't find the button or a way to do it (sorry, never been on a forum until i bought this car!!)


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