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ESBjiujitsu 05-27-2012 08:13 PM

Nameless Performance BRZ Axleback Exhaust
 
new exhaust video :) :burnrubber:


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNW-RocSxUY"]Nameless Performance BRZ Axleback Exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

djdnz 05-27-2012 09:50 PM

Sounds pretty good, need a few acceleration videos though.

uspspro 05-27-2012 11:18 PM

Sounds nice, hopefully they will post the dyno

ESBjiujitsu 05-27-2012 11:25 PM

I think they are the same company that made this straight pipe:thumbsup:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150933853124415



and check out the dyno of the axil back here http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7046

Tainen 05-28-2012 01:04 AM

wingsofwar made a nice video of us driving around with the downpipe and axelback and developmental intake on. Should be posted soon.

Also note that was a cold start in the vid- idle sound is actually at near the 1 minute mark (and it's pretty much silent at idle)

SioXie101 05-28-2012 01:36 AM

need that acceleration video...

86design 05-28-2012 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SioXie101 (Post 228023)
need that acceleration video...

i agree....

Tainen 05-31-2012 09:13 PM

Here's the impressions and sound vid from WingsofWar and I:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_GhVCzVcdE"]Nameless Performance AxleBack Exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

MmmHamSandwich 05-31-2012 09:27 PM

Wasn't feeling it in the original video, sounds pretty good in Tainen's however. I am going to be super anal with my exhaust choice after living with a droning Vibrant on my civic. Was awful at highway speeds and not sporty or particularly loud elsewhere.

Definitely envious of that garage though.

Nate219BRZ 06-01-2012 01:53 AM

Is this the company offering the preorder and discount for ft86club members?

djdnz 06-01-2012 12:04 PM

The new video is not bad, but a bit loud for my tastes. I guess it's the downpipe making the extra noise.

Tainen 06-01-2012 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate219BRZ (Post 234783)
Is this the company offering the preorder and discount for ft86club members?


yes... I haven't heard what that discount is yet though.

Nate219BRZ 06-01-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tainen (Post 235348)
yes... I haven't heard what that discount is yet though.

Can you pm me when you do? Once i find out ill place order that day.

Tainen 06-01-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate219BRZ (Post 235581)
Can you pm me when you do? Once i find out ill place order that day.


You got it. I told them to hop back on this thread a few minutes ago, so hopefully we'll hear it from them soon. :)

RYU 06-01-2012 03:03 PM

how's the drone on this thing?

Tainen 06-01-2012 03:14 PM

effectively none. it's fully muffled, at freeway speeds any exhaust noise is covered up by wind noise- but if you watch the latest vid I posted above, you can see at the end of the vid I do a drive by at 50mph- the car is completely silent. I was in 5th gear, so it'd be roughly equivalent to 6th gear freeway engine speeds.

Neziah 07-03-2012 06:07 PM

That original Video is Axle Back only correct?

Tainen 07-03-2012 06:28 PM

correct.

Innova 07-03-2012 07:54 PM

They shipped mine today! Can't wait. How different is the sound between the full exhaust setup and just the axle back? From my experiance, the sound doesn't change too much with different piping up top and it's the muffler section that really changes the sound.

Like my STi with a 3" Helix downpipe and mid pipe sounded pretty much stock with the stock muffler.

OrbitalEllipses 07-03-2012 07:56 PM

A downpipe will alter the sound of an aftermarket muffler in the cabin more so than anywhere else. If it's a catless downpipe, it will add rasp inside and out for sure.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Innova (Post 294620)
From my experiance, the sound doesn't change too much with different piping up top and it's the muffler section that really changes the sound.

Like my STi with a 3" Helix downpipe and mid pipe sounded pretty much stock with the stock muffler.


Tainen 07-03-2012 07:58 PM

The exhaust growled a lot more with the downpipe added. I love the downpipe/axleback combo from nameless... my favorite sounding setup so far, I ran it on the car for a few weeks before they finished up the header designs and threw that on. Now it's a lot more smooth and loud (and still very aggressive) but I liked the more growly sound out of the downpipe/axleback combo. Perfect for daily drivers who want something louder than stock, but not "loud."

white devil 07-03-2012 08:16 PM

what happened to the video? It's gone

dabocx 07-03-2012 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white devil (Post 294673)
what happened to the video? It's gone

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_GhVCzVcdE"]Nameless Performance AxleBack Exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

white devil 07-03-2012 09:52 PM

my bad.....thought it was a new video

Visconti 07-04-2012 07:11 PM

Wow - this sounds great.

Would love to see some pictures of the exhaust

-John

dabocx 07-04-2012 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 296303)
Wow - this sounds great.

Would love to see some pictures of the exhaust

-John

http://shop.namelessperformance.com/...-w-5-mufflers/

A few pictures on there, when i get my stuff in ill see if i take more

Visconti 07-04-2012 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 296314)
http://shop.namelessperformance.com/...-w-5-mufflers/

A few pictures on there, when i get my stuff in ill see if i take more

Thanks

I'm not going to lie - doesn't look very sexy or look "cool"

But I think it sounds the best out of everything I've heard so far.

Nameless gets my vote

OrbitalEllipses 07-05-2012 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 296318)
Thanks

I'm not going to lie - doesn't look very sexy or look "cool"

But I think it sounds the best out of everything I've heard so far.

Nameless gets my vote

I was just saying that. It doesn't really matter too much, though. I questioned why they kept the original flange attachment location and routing, but their answer was good enough. We'll see if they need to make a new resonated midpipe to deal with the drone in the header, because that might change the game a bit.

Innova 07-10-2012 11:13 PM

I just received this exhaust in the mail. Excelent quality, easy to install (don't even have to lift the car) and sounds just great. The tips are larger then they look in the pictures but not too big. I can't even imagine how silly and huge the tips look on exhausts like the HKS. I am very happy with the product! Great job Nameless.

ayau 07-13-2012 11:15 AM

are these exhausts 100% fabricated in house? do you contract them to a muffler shop to make?

7thgear 07-13-2012 11:28 AM

again i beg forgiveness if this has been answered in one of the many posts

But are there dyno graphs of the entire system

Header + full exhaust + track pipe, WITH a proper tune?

Also curious as to how it might look in conjunction with Perrin's intake and tuning efforts.

Dimman 07-13-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 313074)
again i beg forgiveness if this has been answered in one of the many posts

But are there dyno graphs of the entire system

Header + full exhaust + track pipe, WITH a proper tune?

Also curious as to how it might look in conjunction with Perrin's intake and tuning efforts.

Maybe a single thread is in order to organize the info a little better, too. Following which mods were on for the gains is a little tough. I don't think there is one with the headers, exhaust and track pipe, that I can think of...


They mentioned in one of the other threads they will be getting a tuning solution soon, and are working on their own intake as well.

ForReal-Someday 07-13-2012 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 313074)
again i beg forgiveness if this has been answered in one of the many posts

But are there dyno graphs of the entire system

Header + full exhaust + track pipe, WITH a proper tune?

Also curious as to how it might look in conjunction with Perrin's intake and tuning efforts.

They have shown some dyno graphs of the full system, but I believe they are still waiting on being able to do a tune. As I understand it, the only system that's close to market is ECU Tek, and they have only sent it out to a few shops so far.

If I recall correctly Nameless is seeing approximately 15whp gains for the whole system, but they are running into an issue where the stock ECU is limiting their gains, as some of their individual pieces are able to gain almost 15 hp on their own.

I'm very excited to see what they can do now that they have their own car to do some full time development on.

7thgear 07-13-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 313094)
Maybe a single thread is in order to organize the info a little better, too. Following which mods were on for the gains is a little tough. I don't think there is one with the headers, exhaust and track pipe, that I can think of...


They mentioned in one of the other threads they will be getting a tuning solution soon, and are working on their own intake as well.

+1

a new, consolidated thread would be excellent.


also i'm quite interested in a half-way solution between a track pipe and something with a muffler

my question is that why force the two muffler system? I know that the bumper has holes for two tips... but for those of us looking for 100% performance over looks, I'll gladly settle for just a single tip.

blu_ 07-13-2012 11:54 AM

Most people site noise as the reason, but I do agree with you. I am suprised no one has made one, especially considering how much people will be focusing on weight.

dabocx 07-13-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 313104)
+1

a new, consolidated thread would be excellent.


also i'm quite interested in a half-way solution between a track pipe and something with a muffler

my question is that why force the two muffler system? I know that the bumper has holes for two tips... but for those of us looking for 100% performance over looks, I'll gladly settle for just a single tip.

If you call they will gladly weld a muffler onto the track pipe.

7thgear 07-13-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 313128)
If you call they will gladly weld a muffler onto the track pipe.

well i don't want them to just weld stuff on other stuff, i mean i'd like to see numbers

it would have to be one tiny muffler :D

Tainen 07-13-2012 05:51 PM

Answering a couple questions...

Axleback made 3whp, downpipe+axleback makes 11whp, and headers+everything else makes 20whp. There are graphs published for all the parts in various threads (check the for sale forums, you'll see them for specific parts- like the downpipe preorder thread, which is now available for ordering) or for the headers, check the header development thread in this forum (along with dyno graphs of all the parts combined like this: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=400).
axleback thread in the FS forum: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7049


Everything is hand made in La Center WA at Nameless, and everything is sourced within the US except for the tips on the axleback.

And yes they have expressed a deep interest in doing a few more designs such as single exit muffled, dual exit no mufflers, dual exit smaller mufflers, and suitcase muffler dual exit.

If they throw a muffler on the track pipe, it'd make roughly the same power- their mufflers are not baffled/restricted design. They'd probably use a 4" custom muffler to get it to fit correctly, I would imagine.

My car was the development car for these parts, so if you have questions on fit, finish, feel, sound, or anything like that, I can answer. but for manufacturing questions, we'll haveto let Jason from Nameless chime in :)

ayau 07-16-2012 05:11 PM

tainen, thanks for the feedback.

from a weight perspective, would a suitcase + dual pipes weigh more than the current axleback design?

Tainen 07-16-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 318822)
tainen, thanks for the feedback.

from a weight perspective, would a suitcase + dual pipes weigh more than the current axleback design?


hmm... from looking at some other suitcase designs, I'm guessing it might be roughly 2 pounds heavier. But pretty much all of the suitcase mufflers are not 304ss, they are 409ss(don't believe everything those other threads say... if you call up the suppliers directly and ask, they will admit it is 409ss after enough harassment. Even most of the hangars are not 304ss on most all the systems. If it says Vibrant hangars, it's 409)- so they don't have the longevity that the nameless custom mufflers do. I think Borla might be doing one in 304ss though, so maybe Nameless will go that route for their suitcase design. If they do end up going with the 409ss muffler, they will probably coat it to bring the longevity back up.


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