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midnight23 07-05-2014 06:42 PM
I'm making 270 on 91 with the greddy kit, if you plan on doing e85 you'll be at 300 no problem. Definitely fun on the streets with the quick spool.

SmsAlSuwaidi 07-05-2014 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1831061)
Check out the fullblown, prime motoring, p and l, and MAP owners threads. I chose fullblown. Prime looks like an awesome company as well. Map is underrated and underappreciated around here since they were a little late to the party but make a great kit and constant community support.
Preach it ! MAPs kit is top notch and decently priced. @MAPerformance and @fullbown are the greatest to deal with too

Calum 07-05-2014 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper (Post 1831061)
Check out the fullblown, prime motoring, p and l, and MAP owners threads. I chose fullblown. Prime looks like an awesome company as well. Map is underrated and underappreciated around here since they were a little late to the party but make a great kit and constant community support.

Dont expect over 320whp on 93 without putting in pistons. 500+ is possible on e85 but the engine is getting beat up north of 400-450whp. The manual transmission does not like power over 500. If you have sticky tires and track it you could bust it at 400whp depending on how much torque you make.

A gtx28 turbo making 300+ on 93 and 400 on e85 is about as well rounded as you can get without putting in pistons and worrying about the drivetrain. Dont forget an oil cooler, gauges and ecutek.

Crawford showed up with a sky high price then quoted some high at the time hp numbers on a cheap almost proprietary turbo on a funky dyno using a shortblock they WILL NOT SELL to the public (yes their test and race car has rods in it they wil not sell due to install difficulty) and then disappeared from the forums.
Crawford was banned for not following the vendor rules.

I find most of what he has to say yo be shady anyway, so I was OK with the decision.

mike the snake 07-05-2014 10:18 PM
Your power will be limited by the fuel you run. 91 max is roughly 300 with a really good tune. 91 with meth injection maybe 350.

Higher numbers can be had if you run E85 if that's available to you.

Even at these numbers you'll need a clutch, catch can, radiator and fans if you track or drive hard.

Reliable higher numbers and you're in short block territory.

I love my GTX2867r Full Blown premium kit with meth on 91. FB is a great company to deal with as well. Their customer service is great and I'd buy from them again.

BadBRZ 07-06-2014 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1831095)
Crawford was banned for not following the vendor rules.

I find most of what he has to say yo be shady anyway, so I was OK with the decision.
That means nothing, i'm pretty sure the mods ban 6 people everyday before breakfast just cause

King Tut 07-07-2014 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kalamitykode (Post 1830827)
One thing I have yet to see much information on is the Crawford twin scroll.. Does anybody have any experience with this kit? 450HP on E85 and 430HP on pump gas... Obviously I wouldn't want that much on the stock motor but that's pretty damn appealing.
You won't get that much on a stock motor with their kit. Those numbers they are quoting are probably on their built low compression turbo motor essentially making it similar to an EJ motor. This kit runs a cheap baby Subaru turbo. You can see all you need to see about Crawford and their kits/ECU tuning in the various media the car has gotten where it is never running properly.

Dipstik-sportech 07-07-2014 12:52 PM
Yes Crawford's is making that power on his built engine of which he blew up several. He never addressed any cooling issues other than the $700 being heat shield. The powerband of that kit is awful too, it peaks at like 4500rpm then falls off a cliff. Yeah it will make a daily driver feel fast but if u try to race with the gearing we have you'll have to short shift the crap out of it lol

sw20kosh 07-07-2014 01:55 PM
Aside from the other great kits mentioned here you also can take a look at ptuning's quality turbokit.

thunderlights 07-07-2014 03:05 PM
ive been doing my research too as im in pretty much the same boat, and PTuning's kit stands out to me because they are making around 290whp on 6.5psi of boost. I haven't seen other kits that can achieve that power within the low amount of boost.

King Tut 07-07-2014 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thunderlights (Post 1833382)
ive been doing my research too as im in pretty much the same boat, and PTuning's kit stands out to me because they are making around 290whp on 6.5psi of boost. I haven't seen other kits that can achieve that power within the low amount of boost.
Sounds like solid reasoning to me. Why not only run 6.5 psi on a Garrett GT30 turbo.

Reaper 07-07-2014 03:52 PM
or 3psi on a 88mm turbonetics

thunderlights 07-07-2014 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1833488)
Sounds like solid reasoning to me. Why not only run 6.5 psi on a Garrett GT30 turbo.
Longevity?

sw20kosh 07-07-2014 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thunderlights (Post 1833382)
ive been doing my research too as im in pretty much the same boat, and PTuning's kit stands out to me because they are making around 290whp on 6.5psi of boost. I haven't seen other kits that can achieve that power within the low amount of boost.
What octane do you have access to?

Octane makes a huge difference for this motor. For example my ptuning kit maxes out at 280 whp on CA91 octane and needs 8-9 psi to do it. On 93 it would probably be more in line with ptuning's results.

King Tut 07-07-2014 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thunderlights (Post 1833507)
Longevity?
Of what? The turbo?


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