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Dr. BRZ 06-23-2014 06:37 PM

SUBARU MAY LOSE BRZ?!
 
lets hope this isnt true?!
what do you guys think?
what is the future of the BRZ?!
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...port?fbfanpage

gramicci101 06-23-2014 06:40 PM

It is true; it's already been confirmed at a press conference. Subaru will be cutting short the CY15 model after six months of production to free up manufacturing space for more Outbacks.

x1UP 06-23-2014 06:52 PM

Please, stop these posts. This is getting ridiculous that we need FOUR different threads for this type of thing.

It's annoying.

DaJo 06-23-2014 06:54 PM

:word:

Turbo95eg6 06-23-2014 06:56 PM

http://i59.tinypic.com/311qfcg.png

spdfreak 06-23-2014 06:59 PM

hahaha YES. MORE.

Superhatch 06-23-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1811816)
It is true; it's already been confirmed at a press conference. Subaru will be cutting short the CY15 model after six months of production to free up manufacturing space for more Outbacks.

Instant collectors item. :lol:

I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere so I'm not believing it yet. I can however seeing Subaru drop the BRZ from their lineup though.

Dr. BRZ 06-23-2014 07:08 PM

this means the 2013 models will become a collector's car and will double or triple the value!

AKBrrrrrrrrZ 06-23-2014 07:11 PM

:reposthorse:

kalamitykode 06-23-2014 07:11 PM

lol.. The car would gain value, but think about it.. 10 years down the line, 40 years down the line.. Imagine how expensive it would be just to replace a BRZ/FRS-specific part. Wouldn't be worth driving anymore.

gramicci101 06-23-2014 07:15 PM

I'm honestly surprised they don't just let it get bigger and fatter as time goes on, until it's a puffy overweight, four door, wagon version of its former self. With AWD.

They could call it... a Forester.

N_A 06-23-2014 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ (Post 1811881)
this means the 2013 models will become a collector's car and will double or triple the value!


I don't believe you're a real Dr.

Lol.

ProjectD 06-24-2014 12:55 AM

^ lol

Vic 06-24-2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalamitykode (Post 1811885)
lol.. The car would gain value, but think about it.. 10 years down the line, 40 years down the line.. Imagine how expensive it would be just to replace a BRZ/FRS-specific part. Wouldn't be worth driving anymore.

40 year old crickets FML.

Dr. BRZ 06-24-2014 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N_A (Post 1811903)
I don't believe you're a real Dr.

Lol.

Screw that! Going to medical school for 8 years and be in debt! I ain't got no time for that!
Those are the initials of my name but sure is nice to use DR., LOL

Bristecom 06-24-2014 05:31 PM

To all those who do not wish for this car to continue due to wanting your own to increase in value - consider this: Someone smashes into your car a few years from now and it's totaled. Now you have to spend more money to get a (likely worse) used one off someone if you want the same car. Not cool. Nobody should be wishing for the early demise of this car no matter how selfish you are.

tahdizzle 06-24-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 1813581)
To all those who do not wish for this car to continue due to wanting your own to increase in value - consider this: Someone smashes into your car a few years from now and it's totaled. Now you have to spend more money to get a (likely worse) used one off someone if you want the same car. Not cool. Nobody should be wishing for the early demise of this car no matter how selfish you are.


IF* the BRZ was discontinued, being a proper gearhead I would immediately buy a MY 16 WRX and garage my BRZ.

MJones_RB 06-24-2014 06:34 PM

I recently visited a Subaru dealer and asked about a 2014 Premium manual. I was told there were only 16 left in Southern California, 2 at that dealership. Color choices were down to black & silver. Current pricing was below dealer invoice, plus my IMBA discount. Until the 2015 models arrive this is about it, at least for this particular setup.
Also, just because Subaru may drop the BRZ doesn't mean Scion will drop the FR-S, so parts won't be a problem.

gramicci101 06-24-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 1813708)
I recently visited a Subaru dealer and asked about a 2014 Premium manual. I was told there were only 16 left in Southern California, 2 at that dealership. Color choices were down to black & silver. Current pricing was below dealer invoice, plus my IMBA discount. Until the 2015 models arrive this is about it, at least for this particular setup.
Also, just because Subaru may drop the BRZ doesn't mean Scion will drop the FR-S, so parts won't be a problem.

Get with @HeubergerMotors; they're a vendor here. If the car exists in the country, they can get it for you.

krayzie 06-24-2014 06:48 PM

I don't really care if they do decide to drop the car after one generation. To me a lot of other cars usually were only good with one or two generations anyway so it really makes no difference. That's what makes them legendary.

Not a lot of cars I can think off the top of my head where every generation was really good. Maybe NSX or Miata?

Nevertheless this was a good attempt by Toyota to re-ignite the enthusiast market with a Miata-like formula.

AznBRZer 06-24-2014 07:00 PM

I hope to GOD that this is true. That way, FR-S owners won't need to feel insecure about their purchases anymore because BRZ-envy is tearing our community apart! :bellyroll:

Dr. BRZ 06-24-2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AznBRZer (Post 1813760)
I hope to GOD that this is true. That way, FR-S owners won't need to feel insecure about their purchases anymore because BRZ-envy is tearing our community apart! :bellyroll:

That is true lol

GreenMonster 06-24-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJones_RB (Post 1813708)
I recently visited a Subaru dealer and asked about a 2014 Premium manual. I was told there were only 16 left in Southern California, 2 at that dealership. Color choices were down to black & silver

Yeah, 2014 MY inventory is drying up here in New England too. Not much left in choice of colors. Sterling Silver seems to be the one color left on lots now.

It shouldn't be long before the 2015 start coming in.

jflogerzi 06-24-2014 11:28 PM

Its all up in the air. Granted this rumor is stemming from the fact, that Toyota is potentially (all rumors atm) looking to use BMW for the next generation FT-86 car. But its anyones guess.

WolfpackS2k 06-25-2014 12:57 PM

SUBARU MAY LOSE BRZ?!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gramicci101 (Post 1811816)
It is true; it's already been confirmed at a press conference. Subaru will be cutting short the CY15 model after six months of production to free up manufacturing space for more Outbacks.


It's not true. Please stop spreading false rumors like this. Even if Subaru were to discontinue this car after one generation they wouldn't axe it after 3 years. That's financially stupid. And it doesn't take a business degree to know that, especially given that the economies of scale are shared with Toyota.


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sshole 06-25-2014 01:01 PM

Back in early 2013, Subaru announced they would axe the WRX.

The current, at the time, WRX was axed in early 2014, bringing on the age of the 4th generation WRX.

AKA Fuck this thread.

gramicci101 06-25-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 1815113)
It's not true. Please stop spreading false rumors like this. Even if Subaru were to discontinue this car after one generation they wouldn't axe it after 3 years. That's financially stupid. And it doesn't take a business degree to know that, especially given that the economies of scale are shared with Toyota.


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It's sad that you thought my response was anything other than blatant sarcasm.

G-awesome 06-25-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristecom (Post 1813581)
To all those who do not wish for this car to continue due to wanting your own to increase in value - consider this: Someone smashes into your car a few years from now and it's totaled. Now you have to spend more money to get a (likely worse) used one off someone if you want the same car. Not cool. Nobody should be wishing for the early demise of this car no matter how selfish you are.

Oh I need not worry....Someone smashed and totaled mine BEFORE the annoucement. :bonk:

2point0 06-25-2014 01:40 PM

Plenty of cars get discontinued...then are resurrected a few years later so everyone goes crazy and has to buy one.

Like the Camaro, Thunderbird....Mustang...

tahdizzle 06-25-2014 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sshole (Post 1815120)
Back in early 2013, Subaru announced they would axe the WRX.

The current, at the time, WRX was axed in early 2014, bringing on the age of the 4th generation WRX.

AKA Fuck this thread.


Technically the Impreza WRX was infact discontinued.

Boxer486 06-25-2014 01:56 PM

It only goes to prove my long belief that Subaru never wanted to make this car and Toyota dragged them kicking and screaming to do so.


The boxer engine is great but it's a shame Subaru can't dissect a Porsche or Cosworth engine and learn how to make a proper NA'd boxer. The relatively weak performance of aftermarket parts and tunes tells me the FA20 must have some shitty flowing heads. I can only imagine if it weren't for Toyota's D4S this thing would be rated at 180hp/130tq. Probably no better than a 20 year old Celica GTS.


I'd like Toyota and Subaru to continue but it seems one or both have too much pride to maintain a professional partnership which is odd for the Japanese. If not, the next Miata, Bimmeryota or Honda will be here soon enough.


Even if Subaru doesn't want the car, it has opened the flood gates for enthusiasts of non fat frozen yogurt lighter weight RWD. For everyone else, there's plenty of fat pig Breyers V8s to pick from already.

Speed2th 06-25-2014 03:09 PM

maybe it will just like NSX, one gen last like 9 years.

gymratter 06-25-2014 03:31 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68608

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68595

gymratter 06-25-2014 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed2th (Post 1815403)
maybe it will just like NSX, one gen last like 9 years.

1991 to 2005 is more than 9 years ;)

Boxer486 06-25-2014 03:33 PM

Meanwhile...


http://www.carscoops.com/2014/06/mys...type-with.html

GreenMonster 06-25-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2point0 (Post 1815206)
Plenty of cars get discontinued...then are resurrected a few years later so everyone goes crazy and has to buy one.

Like the Camaro, Thunderbird....Mustang...

My last 2 coupes were discontinued.

I bought a '95 Tbird... discontinued in 1997.

Bought my current Acura CLS in 2002, discontinued in 2003.

Let's see what happens if I buy a BRZ :eek:

gymratter 06-25-2014 06:19 PM

but i could see the BRZ & FRS having anywhere from a 6-10 year life cycle.

Fastbrew 06-25-2014 06:26 PM

Be here now. Be present. Love the one you're with. Why worry about tomorrow when you have today AND an awesome car?

krayzie 06-25-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer486 (Post 1815258)
I can only imagine if it weren't for Toyota's D4S this thing would be rated at 180hp/130tq. Probably no better than a 20 year old Celica GTS.

If it wasn't for Toyota Yamaha Denso D-4S this boxer engine would only have about 120hp, probably no better than a 20 year old Civic Si.

I've noticed that Toyota's D-4S engines only have variable valve timing but no electronic lift control (86, IS350, LFA).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed2th (Post 1815403)
maybe it will just like NSX, one gen last like 9 years.

I'm thinking maybe like 3rd gen Integra which ran for 7 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter (Post 1815452)
1991 to 2005 is more than 9 years ;)

He meant NA1 and NA2. NA2 actually came out on the 10th year of the NSX. At that time in Japan, Honda had a factory refresh program for the JDM NA1 which would refurbish owners' cars for a price.

Bristecom 06-25-2014 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxer486 (Post 1815454)

It's just some tuner's car. Not likely to be anything official Toyota or Subaru. They already created a circuit version of the GT86 in Germany with even nicer components.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krayzie (Post 1816288)
If it wasn't for Toyota Yamaha Denso D-4S this boxer engine would only have about 120hp, probably no better than a 20 year old Honda Civic Si.

I have found no evidence of Yamaha working on this engine. Have you?


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