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Frs300 06-19-2014 03:43 AM

forced air tech twin turbo frs
 
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FAT twin turbo frs

THIS IS NOT MY CAR seen it on facebook

@cdrazic93 @Reaper @SalM @FAER @BadBRZ @jsimon7777

nguyen_er 06-19-2014 03:57 AM

Whoa...

EAGLE5 06-19-2014 04:06 AM

Does that make it a twin twin? I thought your car was silver. Anyway, I don't like businesses that pay for reviews.

Frs300 06-19-2014 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 1804370)
Does that make it a twin twin? I thought your car was silver. Anyway, I don't like businesses that pay for reviews.

Not my car i just posted it

cdrazic93 06-19-2014 04:28 AM

Might as well take the hood off. Not sure how well a vented hood will keep that oven from cooking everything.

EAGLE5 06-19-2014 04:32 AM

I don't think two turbos make twice the heat.

BadBRZ 06-19-2014 04:40 AM

This is a board members cars.. Smh

808d-no 06-19-2014 06:53 AM

i wanna see videos of it running

FR-S Matt 06-19-2014 07:57 AM

I want to see how they keep it cool. I forsee fans and a hood melting in this car's future.

Dipstik-sportech 06-19-2014 08:18 AM

Roadkill style take the hood off and strap it to the roof

The Frozen North

sshole 06-19-2014 08:24 AM

Where's the radiator?

bakerr6 06-19-2014 08:41 AM

who needs a radiator when you have 2 turbos?

Sportsguy83 06-19-2014 09:49 AM

I can only wonder why so much hate.... :iono:...

Almost every post has to point out a negative thing about it...

I am really happy someone is trying it and can't wait for results...

Rican_D 06-19-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1804559)
I can only wonder why so much hate.... :iono:...

Almost every post has to point out a negative thing about it...

I am really happy someone is trying it and can't wait for results...

Seriously... someone is trying something new and different. Whether this setup runs hotter or there's no room, who cares?? Until someone tries it you will never know what the issues are and how to overcome them. I remember when they announced the compression ratio for this engine and everyone was like "oh so much for going F/I". Now look at all these owners pushing high HP on stock internals. Whoever did this setup I give them mad props.

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Sportsguy83 06-19-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rican_D (Post 1804569)
Seriously... someone is trying something new and different. Whether this setup runs hotter or there's no room, who cares?? Until someone tries it you will never know what the issues are and how to overcome them. I remember when they announced the compression ratio for this engine and everyone was like "oh so much for going F/I". Now look at all these owners pushing high HP on stock internals. Whoever did this setup I give them mad props.

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QFT, big time.

charged86 06-19-2014 10:10 AM

Hi. I just installed a pizza oven in my engine bay! no thats not peporoni cooking its plastic!

ecko04 06-19-2014 10:24 AM

Good shit! Can't wait to see some results. Maybe the owner can post here if he ever sees this thread.

Ammonia 06-19-2014 10:31 AM

Looks amazing. I hope it produces results though!

protpibe 06-19-2014 10:31 AM

Nice!

I would love to see whats going on under that bumper

andrew20195 06-19-2014 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 1804389)
I don't think two turbos make twice the heat.

Exactly. Heat is a side effect of power. With properly sized turbos it won't make much more heat than a single, unless they're running them way out of their efficiency range. Which I think would be hard to do on a 1.0 liter.

I'd love to see a dyno graph of that setup to see how it compares to some of the singles.

The Racers Line 06-19-2014 11:05 AM

According to Instagram @nelsmar is tuning it or is with someone tuning it. Very interested to see what kind of powerband it has!

Model Citizen 06-19-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Frs300 (Post 1804355)
THIS IS NOT MY CAR seen it on facebook

Of course it isn't

this one has an engine in it.

Dream20b 06-19-2014 11:47 AM

I don't understand the need for twin turbos in a 4cylinder.

King Tut 06-19-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal@EQtuning (Post 1804689)
According to Instagram @nelsmar is tuning it or is with someone tuning it. Very interested to see what kind of powerband it has!

I sure hope he is going full speed density because I can't see those two pipes merging right in front of the MAF sensor as creating a very straight condition for the air to flow across the MAF. It was also my understanding that turbos do not like being mounted at angles like that as far as the oil feed/return is involved.

STV3 06-19-2014 11:53 AM

It's cool to look at and will have the "whoa check this out" effect. Kudos to them for being different, but I personally just think it's a waste of time and money as far a performance goes. Who knows, maybe it's a show car.

evo4g63 06-19-2014 11:57 AM

This is @fst86frs car. I was at the dyno with him and @nelsmar yesterday when they had this thing strapped down for a pump gas tune.

evo4g63 06-19-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1804758)
I sure hope he is going full speed density because I can't see those two pipes merging right in front of the MAF sensor as creating a very straight condition for the air to flow across the MAF. It was also my understanding that turbos do not like being mounted at angles like that as far as the oil feed/return is involved.

Surprisingly this thing works on MAF. We were all very surprised as @nelsmar calls it some sorta voodoo magic FAT came up with. However as of now this car is on a hybrid MAF/SD tune. I am sure they will chime in with more details.

King Tut 06-19-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by evo4g63 (Post 1804767)
This is @fst86frs car. I was at the dyno with him and @nelsmar yesterday when they had this thing strapped down for a pump gas tune.

Yep and it appears @fst86frs actually works for Forced Air Tech.

evo4g63 06-19-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1804776)
Yep and it appears @fst86frs actually works for Forced Air Tech.

That is correct. Very cool group of guys over at FAT.

sshole 06-19-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1804559)
I can only wonder why so much hate.... :iono:...

Almost every post has to point out a negative thing about it...

I am really happy someone is trying it and can't wait for results...

For clarification, I wasn't hating. I'm genuinely curious to know where the radiator on that car is.

cdrazic93 06-19-2014 12:10 PM

I'm all for TT kits, they look a hell of a lot cooler. The only issue I have is the possible cooling lol. But hey if it pushes 5 psi and makes 350 whp then Moar power to em! No pun intended.

evo4g63 06-19-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sshole (Post 1804790)
For clarification, I wasn't hating. I'm genuinely curious to know where the radiator on that car is.

The radiator is in the same location as the stock. I believe he has an upgraded Mishimoto unit in it's place.

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1804791)
I'm all for TT kits, they look a hell of a lot cooler. The only issue I have is the possible cooling lol. But hey if it pushes 5 psi and makes 350 whp then Moar power to em! No pun intended.

It makes power but not that on 5psi.

King Tut 06-19-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by evo4g63 (Post 1804798)
The radiator is in the same location as the stock. I believe he has an upgraded Mishimoto unit in it's place.

He clearly relocated the radiator cap though. I am guessing that is the overflow bottle mounted back by the radiator now.

evo4g63 06-19-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1804813)
He clearly relocated the radiator cap though. I am guessing that is the overflow bottle mounted back by the radiator now.

Radiator neck/fill and hose has been modified. Overflow bottle is mounted back by the battery for now.

fst86frs 06-19-2014 01:34 PM

Alright guys to chime in, this is my car. Any questions feel free to ask. Radiator and fan are still in their normal spot and running a mishimoto. For the heat nothing is melting and doesnt generate much more heat than a single it is just dissipated differently. Conservative pump gas tune in the az heat at 10psi made right around 315whp for now. Piping is still getting coated, built motor is still yet to go in as well as larger re profiled compressor wheels as well as flex. The center cartidges on those turbos allow the ability to angle not traditional turbos. Response is great and linear smooth! UHT and IAT are actually pretty good as well. The car is built by forced air technologies

hmong337 06-19-2014 01:49 PM

Looks pretty awesome. Unique for sure. Ideal? Nah. Props to the owner for doing something different though. Would make for a show piece.

cdrazic93 06-19-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fst86frs (Post 1804951)
Alright guys to chime in, this is my car. Any questions feel free to ask.

I got a few.

Did ya go balls to the wall and opt for a twin scroll manny for both turbos? What kind of torque at 10 psi?

Sportsguy83 06-19-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sshole (Post 1804790)
For clarification, I wasn't hating. I'm genuinely curious to know where the radiator on that car is.

I didn't take your post as such :cheers:

fst86frs 06-19-2014 02:07 PM

It is definitely a show piece but a functional one, this car is a daily as well as a track car and will be tested. Necessary? Not but neither is boost in general decided to push something different and worked very well exceeded my expectations, thanks for the props! and sweet sw20 @hmong337

AVodka14 06-19-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rican_D (Post 1804569)
Seriously... someone is trying something new and different. Whether this setup runs hotter or there's no room, who cares?? Until someone tries it you will never know what the issues are and how to overcome them. I remember when they announced the compression ratio for this engine and everyone was like "oh so much for going F/I". Now look at all these owners pushing high HP on stock internals. Whoever did this setup I give them mad props.

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Exactly. And some members on here will proclaim how this motor isn't reliable and turbos are blowing them up. Yada yada. Find one negative thing and some people on here will pick it apart and make it sound like a pandemic.


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