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Pacific Auto 06-18-2014 08:57 PM

EL Catted Header: P&L vs JDL?
 
The search on this site blows. Opinions on these two headers?

Will be using OFT with non catted front pipe and stock axle back. Power blocks maybe in the future.

http://pandlmotorsports.com/shop/pl-...4-1-header-na/

http://jdlautodesign.net/shop/ft86-equal-length-header/

Fred E 06-18-2014 09:44 PM

Well the JDL catted and coated header is $250 more than the P&L catted and coated header and is certainly not $250 better. Personally, I have the P&L catted and coated header and love it. It's a beautiful piece and makes a beautiful sound.

I can't speak to the JDL piece, but $1500 is waaaay too much for only one piece of the exhaust, imo. Also, JDL has at least a 3 week lead time, while P&L usually has headers on hand.

Scavanger 06-18-2014 09:49 PM

I also have the P&L headers, mine are uncatted but still amazing plus they are the set up for the P&L turbo kit so it saves you money on the kit if you plan on getting it

calmtigers 06-18-2014 10:06 PM

Google jdl el collector and all of the independent dynos done of both their headers

/end thread

wootwoot 06-18-2014 10:29 PM

Unless both headers were tested on the same car, the same day, those dyno numbers you speak of mean very little.

I think they are both very high quality units that produce great numbers. I think you'll be happy with either one.

ET86 06-19-2014 02:41 AM

I'm torn as well not too many sound clip of either. However, I heard one with Nameless headers that sounded phenomenal. Sigh... decisions.

the new guy 06-19-2014 02:57 AM

The video of the JDL EL catted headers sounds phenomenal. Pretty much what sound me plus the gains I'll get on top whenever I get my tune.


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akyp 06-19-2014 03:29 AM

I'm interested in P&L catted and coated as well, but would like to hear more user comments on issues, if any. In particular if the loop in front of the engine is causing nearby plastics to melt (going to keep the stock intake resonators). The lack of in-cabin videos, particularly with stock catback, is a bit frustrating too.

calmtigers 06-19-2014 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 1803890)
Unless both headers were tested on the same car, the same day, those dyno numbers you speak of mean very little.

I think they are both very high quality units that produce great numbers. I think you'll be happy with either one.


You are very correct however what one is suppose to look at is the increase in change between the runs within the same dyno (ex stock to header run with a 20 percent increase in some area compared to an increase from another dyno) while numbers change increase rate generally stay similar that's why curves often look of a similar shape between dynos.

Do some google searches is what I'm saying and figure out what you want and are looking for in a header

wootwoot 06-19-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akyp (Post 1804340)
I'm interested in P&L catted and coated as well, but would like to hear more user comments on issues, if any. In particular if the loop in front of the engine is causing nearby plastics to melt (going to keep the stock intake resonators). The lack of in-cabin videos, particularly with stock catback, is a bit frustrating too.

If the guys that have gone turbo aren't melting anything, you certainly won't.

Hyper4mance2k 06-20-2014 04:02 AM

Bump. Info on these headers isn't as easy as a Google search. Especially when this thread is the first search result.

Hawaiian 06-20-2014 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akyp (Post 1804340)
I'm interested in P&L catted and coated as well, but would like to hear more user comments on issues, if any. In particular if the loop in front of the engine is causing nearby plastics to melt (going to keep the stock intake resonators). The lack of in-cabin videos, particularly with stock catback, is a bit frustrating too.

I'm sitting at 47,000 miles now, the majority of them with the P&L header (now modified to turbo header) I have no melting plastics anywhere in my engine bay. I'll take photos tomorrow when it's light out if you would like.

I never had a Header+stock catback configuration or I would have had a few sound videos for you, but I think someone else here had done it. Last I heard they were having trouble posting the video:iono:.

gabeg86 09-29-2014 03:16 PM

Bumping this thread.
Is the sound dramatically different from catted to non-catted? I don't mind loud, I just don't want rasp. Currently running catless front pipe matched to an Evo3.

wparsons 09-29-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calmtigers (Post 1803854)
Google jdl el collector and all of the independent dynos done of both their headers

/end thread

That pulls up exactly zero useful results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred E (Post 1803821)
I can't speak to the JDL piece, but $1500 is waaaay too much for only one piece of the exhaust, imo. Also, JDL has at least a 3 week lead time, while P&L usually has headers on hand.

Not saying it's the case here, but sometimes available stock is actually a bad thing (ie, why aren't they already sold).


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