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White64Goat 06-13-2014 01:22 PM

All Camaros Built Since 2010
 
GM issued a recall for ALL Camaros built since since 2010 for the ignition switch. Seems that you can bump it with your knee and shut the engine off, leading to a possible accident. This is 511,000+ vehicles.

RenegadeSS 06-13-2014 01:34 PM

I heard of this issue, but it really pertains to the fools who hang every key they own on their car keys. Before you hit the key (which never happened to me), you will hit the steering wheel and column.

malave7567 06-13-2014 03:16 PM

The recall is for the key itself, not the ignition switch. And yeah, like Renegade said, you have to drive with your knees all the way up by the key for this to be a problem. I had a Gen5 Camaro for two years and never had my knees anywhere close to where they could "bump the key, making it turn out of the run position."

Their proposed solution is idiotic if you ask me. It takes the stock key, and now instead of a switchblade keyfob, you have a standard key and a separate fob. That's a step backwards if you ask me. My wife will not be changing her key on her Camaro. She agrees it's stupid. GM is trying too hard to cover their asses.

MokSpeed 06-13-2014 03:20 PM

Should've never bailed them out anyway.

ModBargains.com 06-13-2014 03:20 PM

Yeah... Not good, the total amount of recalls from GM lately are insane, so this isn't going to help that at all.

strat61caster 06-13-2014 04:23 PM

Looks like a pretty silly 'we're just going to cover our ass even though it's a minor issue' thing to me.

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-hard...n-i-1590538077

I bet I could turn my FRS off with my knee if I tried hard enough, no hitting, just push it around with your kneecap.

Edit: Please click on the link above, this is totally unrelated to the death switch that GM flipped out about over the past few weeks, that switch problem was solved in 2007.

husker741 06-13-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MokSpeed (Post 1794902)
Should've never bailed them out anyway.

Bingo.

RenegadeSS 06-13-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 1795005)
Bingo.

Any car can suffer from the same issue if people dangle any weight on their keys. Regarless, of any manufacturer.

husker741 06-13-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RenegadeSS (Post 1795074)
Any car can suffer from the same issue if people dangle any weight on their keys. Regarless, of any manufacturer.

Yeah, but not all manufacturers went bankrupt because they blow donkey d1ck.

MokSpeed 06-13-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741 (Post 1795083)
Yeah, but not all manufacturers went bankrupt because they blow donkey d1ck.

This x1000000

Also don't try to pull that "It would've hurt the US economy" crap either. An 80 billion dollar bailout is what hurts the economy. Even now GM continues to make garbage and hasn't learned from their flaws and mistakes. If you're unwilling to adapt to the market you deserve to be put out of business. Ford realized their issues and addressed them. Now they are doing quite well.

Dadhawk 06-13-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ModBargains.com (Post 1794903)
Yeah... Not good, the total amount of recalls from GM lately are insane, so this isn't going to help that at all.

Looking back through the last 7 weeks of notifications of recalls (I've subscribed to their service here) from the NHTSA, GM has had 18 recalls posted.

During that same time Toyota has had 4.

Ford and Nissan also had quite a few, but I was too lazy to count them. All of them have some serious (and like this one for GM) some not so serious.

(@MokSpeed comment ^above^ made me have to go back and count, Ford had 10, including 3 this week)

Some of the recalls Ford and GM actually share because they are on 3rd party equipment like handicap lifts and other conversion activities.

What I have noticed is they seem to come in batches for all manufacturers, so maybe there is some procedural thing that causes them to be lumped together.

Just an observation, not sure where I was really going with this....

RenegadeSS 06-13-2014 08:54 PM

Simmer down kids. Toyota had recalls in the millions also resulting in deaths.

RenegadeSS 06-13-2014 08:55 PM

I had an integra with similar issues. The previous owner failed to mention it to me. Found out the hard way on base, when I almost careened into the MPX.

chulooz 06-14-2014 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RenegadeSS (Post 1795402)
Simmer down kids. Toyota had recalls in the millions also resulting in deaths.

You mean the floor mat witch hunt that just so happened to be around the same time as the GM bailout...?

malave7567 06-14-2014 09:49 AM

How about recently (Jan/Feb 2014), all the heated seat recalls to make sure they don't burn the chair or start a fire? My wife works in Toyota Service Department, she sees all the recalls. They don't make the news most of the time because it's something minor, and that's how it should be.
The GM ignition switch thing wasn't minor, so the spotlight is very very bright on them right now. This keyfob thing for the Camaro is minor, affects a very small percent, if you consider 500k vehicles and 10-20 people having this happen (even though only 3 reported crashes, non-fatal). That's way less than 1 percent. Do you ever want any problem with a vehicle? Of course not, but this issue being less than 1% makes it a very minor issue.

RenegadeSS 06-14-2014 10:57 AM

I'm just saying that all mass produced products will always have issues. Like Malave mentioned, it's in the spot light because of what happened with the ignition switches from the delta chassis models from 05 to 2010. I also remember when the power steering units in the cobalts, and HHRs where carping out. Pretty dangerous I might add, and I remember a couple of accidents. Funny thing is that mine went out, and I replaced it. Lo and behold it was a Denso electric motor manufactured in Japan. So before bashing do some homework. I've owned many cars from different manufacturers in my life, and they all have their quirks.

funwheeldrive 06-14-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RenegadeSS (Post 1795402)
Simmer down kids. Toyota had recalls in the millions also resulting in deaths.

And they never had to be bailed out.

Pat.Thornton 06-14-2014 02:45 PM

I personally hate gm cars too.. However you can't deny that the c7 vette isn't awesome


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Mikem53 06-14-2014 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RenegadeSS (Post 1795402)
Simmer down kids. Toyota had recalls in the millions also resulting in deaths.

The narrow minded GM haters can't see the reality of this.
That GM uses part suppliers and not everything turns out perfect. Not
To mention the way people abuse their cars and cause unforeseen issues.
I've owned several Chevys that proved to be trouble free, safe and reliable over many years.. Not to mention how much fun and capable the cars were :party0030:

RenegadeSS 06-15-2014 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive (Post 1796146)
And they never had to be bailed out.

Because the bailout was the direct cause of the recall on the key fobs for the camaro keys. Get over yourself. You are hating without a cause.


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