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Phaedrus29 06-10-2014 03:47 PM

HVT vs Raceseng Caster Camber Plates?
 
Hey, I'm currently on stock struts with RCE yellows. I'm using the crash bolts to adjust camber, but the clearance up front is dicey with my aftermarket wheels. I'd like to adjust camber with plates, so I can put the solid strut bolts back in.

I'm looking for caster/camber plates that will work with the stock struts but also WOULD work later on with aftermarket coilovers. It looks like both the HVT and Raceseng will do that.

Any thoughts on comparing these two options? The Raceseng are more pricey but look more badass. If I'm not mistaken, the HVT adds caster but does not have adjustable caster...while the Raceseng allows caster adjustability. (I might be wrong on that.) I'm not sure how useful adjustable caster would be for me.

Since I'm on the stock struts right now, I need plates that won't raise or lower the ride height. Is that true of both the HVT and Raceseng plates?

Thanks for the help.

wootwoot 06-10-2014 04:01 PM

Not sure how necessary adjustable caster is for your application. I have heard the HVT's are very quiet and don't induce as much NHV as other options.

Jive Turkey 06-10-2014 05:25 PM

curious myself, i'm currently on sti group-N tophats and am looking to upgrade because i need more camber then what the bolt can give me.

i had the whiteline com-c's before and never doing those again...

so now i'm torn between raceseng, MSI, HVT

was385 06-10-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 1789111)
Not sure how necessary adjustable caster is for your application. I have heard the HVT's are very quiet and don't induce as much NHV as other options.


I just went to the HVT plates and read before I bought them that they don't introduce any NVH. That's false, but I will say it's a very manageable increase. Over smooth roads, there's nothing, however over bigger bumps and seams in the road, there's a definite noise and comfort decrease from stock. Still though, very manageable even for a daily driver.

CSG Mike 06-10-2014 05:39 PM

We recommend RaceSeng. We're confident enough that we stock them, and have exactly what you need :)

olorin 06-10-2014 06:01 PM

I have the raceseng-- In addition to looking bad ass, their customer support is really good.

Wepeel 06-10-2014 06:19 PM

Another thing to think about - the HVT are specifically designed to not raise ride heights on OEM style springs, and come with a custom perch for them. Not sure if/how much height the Raceseng plates might add.

When running coilovers the HVT actually will raise the ride height a bit because the conical washer is integrated into the bearing interface perch thingie - it's minimal, maybe 4mm, but it's technically not a "no lift" plate when running coilovers.

I have the HVT, they are very good quality, silent, and I haven't had to add any lubrication. They do add some fixed caster, ~0.5-0.7 degrees.

If the MSI plates are like the ones I had for my STI, I would choose one of the other two. The MSI bearing required periodic regreasing (creaked) and they added a lot of ride height. That and the adjustment is a little frustrating. I like the idea of discrete holes but it was a pain to adjust.

fooddude 06-10-2014 06:56 PM

I know the HVT's add more bump travel...but do the RaceSeng fronts add bump travel too? ..they don't look like they do, since they're thin.

CSG Mike 06-10-2014 08:55 PM

RaceSeng plates do not add bump travel, but rear top hats that add bump travel are available.

If you would like a custom RaceSeng CasCam plate, PLEASE contact us directly, and we can make it happen.

drewbot 06-10-2014 09:05 PM

What are the implications of running the Raceseng for winter and DD duties?

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Malt 06-10-2014 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1789688)
What are the implications of running the Raceseng for winter and DD duties?

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I ran mine all winter on my DD and they still look brand new. No noise or any other issues. We had a rather cold winter this year in NC and lots of road salt applied comparatively from normal application rates. Obviously Canada is a completely different world though :D

drewbot 06-10-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Malt (Post 1789698)
I ran mine all winter on my DD and they still look brand new. No noise or any other issues. We had a rather cold winter this year in NC and lots of road salt applied comparatively from normal application rates. Obviously Canada is a completely different world though :D

Yeah exactly. Sub 0 F temps, road salt like no tomorrow, salt and snow spray onto suspension and underbody, etc.

Sounds promising though. Just don't like rattle city at every small bump...

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Malt 06-10-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1789710)
Yeah exactly. Sub 0 F temps, road salt like no tomorrow, salt and snow spray onto suspension and underbody, etc.

Sounds promising though. Just don't like rattle city at every small bump...

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I seriously doubt these are going to rattle ever and if they do Jarret @Raceseng will take care of you. They are warrantied for 36 months. They might be a little pricey but the level of customer support and having a company stand behind their products makes them worth every penny imo.

was385 06-11-2014 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1789710)
Yeah exactly. Sub 0 F temps, road salt like no tomorrow, salt and snow spray onto suspension and underbody, etc.

Sounds promising though. Just don't like rattle city at every small bump...

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If you're going with camber plates, don't expect to avoid any additional NVH. I see a lot of people saying they don't have any but I'm just not sure I believe that. It's not a question of plate quality, but if you're going from connecting your front struts with somewhat soft rubber to solid metal, there will be additional NVH. I really only feel and hear it over bigger bumps and seams in the road though so it's very manageable.


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