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Originally Posted by robot
(Post 1790141)
I especially like the part where he reflects on how good drivers don't really have lightning quick reflexes.
I think most of the inputs to a driver who is trying to recognize the tipping point of traction to slipping comes from the inner ear. I know some of it is visual but I bet most of the input to the system is vestibular.
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From B. Johnson's piece:
"It is often said that really good drivers don’t inherently have great reflexes, but rather can anticipate what the car is going to do and adjust their inputs as an unwanted event is occurring, not in reaction to it."
This is frequently referred to as being 'ahead of the car'. 'Anticipate', to some, may imply a thought process; it's not, and as BJ makes clear elsewhere in the piece, it's a muscle memory/automatic response borne out of practice that enables a driver to be able to perform at that level. BJ forgot to mention talent, that separator of the stars from the rest of us (speaking for myself :-).
FWIW, this clip will show you what being ahead of the car looks like at high speed in a downpour:
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The driver in this video is a pro and will tell you that, generally, it's his vision that enables him to stay ahead of the car when at speed it wants to head off-line against his will. That's the conscious part (i.e., don't forget, keep your eyes up at all times). His kinesthetic sense is involved as well; that's automatic, and that does indeed involve lightning reflexes - without them, he'd have been in the Armco in no time flat.
BTW, that amount of movement visible in a car at speed in a video with this perspective is well on its way to a tank-slapper - in the rain. Additionally, and as the owner showed me after the race, the car ran on hard, years-old BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWs. Compared to fresh dry rubber or Hoosier wets, they were hockey pucks. Rules dictated the tire, but not the age.
FWIW, the car in the video has twins power and in this major season-ending Northeast BMW club race vanquished a ton of cars that in the dry would have been 5-10 seconds/lap quicker- all because of the pro driver's car control skills and rain line expertise.