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Conor 07-25-2010 12:30 AM

Is anyone else on the fence due to the engine choice?
 
I'm sorely disappointed that they're not using something like the IS350's 3.5L V6 in this car... never mind that they're (likely?) putting a boxer engine in it.

I like the concept of the car, but the powertrain is pushing me away.

ichitaka05 07-25-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Conor (Post 17191)
I'm sorely disappointed that they're not using something like the IS350's 3.5L V6 in this car... never mind that they're (likely?) putting a boxer engine in it.

I like the concept of the car, but the powertrain is pushing me away.

:laughabove::bellyroll::laughabove::bellyroll:

Then buy heavy ass IS350, simple as that.

Dimman 07-25-2010 01:33 AM

A boxer 4 cylinder offers some significant advantages in a FR platform. It lowers the center of gravity due to the low height of the motor. And it moves the center of gravity back due to the short length of the motor. Flat fours are also inherently balanced on one plane (as opposed to both like an L6 or H6, but L4s are not naturally balanced at all). And if it is an EJ series motor, they are proven that they can make good power. More than most people will need in the F/T/R-86/S.

It's an excellent choice, despite not being from Toyota.

ichitaka05 07-25-2010 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17194)
A boxer 4 cylinder offers some significant advantages in a FR platform. It lowers the center of gravity due to the low height of the motor. And it moves the center of gravity back due to the short length of the motor. Flat fours are also inherently balanced on one plane (as opposed to both like an L6 or H6, but L4s are not naturally balanced at all). And if it is an EJ series motor, they are proven that they can make good power. More than most people will need in the F/T/R-86/S.

It's an excellent choice, despite not being from Toyota.

:clap::clap::clap:
Dimman, good job! teach newbie some lesson.

70NYD 07-25-2010 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor (Post 17191)
I'm sorely disappointed that they're not using something like the IS350's 3.5L V6 in this car... never mind that they're (likely?) putting a boxer engine in it.

I like the concept of the car, but the powertrain is pushing me away.

LOL ur sucha hillbilly (more cilinders and more cc equals more power yall) id take a 4cyl turbo or twin charged (which has been done to a EJ20 :D:D) any day over a V8... its a sports car not a tow truck
what dimman said, H4 is the most naturally balanced engine apart from a V12 or a really well designed I6 due to moment coupling and canceling. I4 suffers from a end-end rock..

in short no i am not on the fence as the engine is one of the reasons i love this car since i cannot afford a 22B, do not like 4door saloons and would not be seen dead in a Porsche. I would love a Baja converted super with a EJ20 - T or a meyers manx/towd but only for bush/bashing, not for street

djohnson 07-25-2010 11:36 AM

The only way I want to see anything other than a 4 cyl in this car is if they can squeeze an EJ33 in there without completely destroying the balance:burnrubber: Not very likely to happen so most of us are going to pull every last bit of power out of whichever size 4 cyl we get:thumbup:

ichitaka05 07-25-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by djohnson (Post 17202)
The only way I want to see anything other than a 4 cyl in this car is if they can squeeze an EJ33 in there without completely destroying the balance:burnrubber: Not very likely to happen so most of us are going to pull every last bit of power out of whichever size 4 cyl we get:thumbup:

You mean EZ or EG engines? EG did do 3.3 L H6 engine (SVX). While EZ was 3L or 3.6L (Legacy & Tribeca).

DanZilla 07-25-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17194)
A boxer 4 cylinder offers some significant advantages in a FR platform. It lowers the center of gravity due to the low height of the motor. And it moves the center of gravity back due to the short length of the motor. Flat fours are also inherently balanced on one plane (as opposed to both like an L6 or H6, but L4s are not naturally balanced at all). And if it is an EJ series motor, they are proven that they can make good power. More than most people will need in the F/T/R-86/S.

It's an excellent choice, despite not being from Toyota.

:bow:

Midship Runabout 07-25-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 17197)
:clap::clap::clap:
Dimman, good job! teach newbie some lesson.

If this is the same "Conor" from the mr2 boards im gonna say hes not so newbish.

ichitaka05 07-25-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Normous (Post 17237)
If this is the same "Conor" from the mr2 boards im gonna say hes not so newbish.

He may be expert in MR series and/or V6 engine... but sounds like newb on boxer engine to me. Of course, I stand to be correct. I'm no way near PhD or expert of boxer engine either, but stating that cuz of boxer engine chosen over IS350 v6 engine (2GR-FSE iirc) is lame excuse to hating this car.

NESW20 07-25-2010 04:57 PM

i hope they develop a new engine that is not an EJ. nothing wrong with the EJ, but i want cylinder heads done by Yamaha.

Siriusly.Andrew 07-25-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 17244)
i hope they develop a new engine that is not an EJ. nothing wrong with the EJ, but i want cylinder heads done by Yamaha.

This. I want.

Dimman 07-25-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 17244)
i hope they develop a new engine that is not an EJ. nothing wrong with the EJ, but i want cylinder heads done by Yamaha.

No reason it can't be a new EJ. Subaru's been updating this thing continuously for over how many years now? Lots anyways... Heads aren't that big of a deal to change.

That would actually be pretty sick, EJ20Y (for Yamaha!). Spins up to 9k or something...

ichitaka05 07-25-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 17247)
No reason it can't be a new EJ. Subaru's been updating this thing continuously for over how many years now? Lots anyways... Heads aren't that big of a deal to change.

That would actually be pretty sick, EJ20Y (for Yamaha!). Spins up to 9k or something...

Subaru have been improving the EJ engine series for 21 yrs, but I do wanna see how how much improvement can be seen with Yamaha tuned EJ heads... at the same time, I'm worry how much tq gonna be lost.


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