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For those with pieced together custom turbo kits..
Why did you decide to go this route? Did you save money over an out of the box kit? Would you recommend this route or would you go simple bolt on kit if you were to do it all over again?
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I went this route because no one offered the kit like i wanted, UEL manifold, BW turbo and shortest possible IC pipes...
I spent thousands more than i should have I would not go this route again. |
That sucks man. We could have done our kit with a BW turbo. Has UEL manifold, and short piping. How do you like the BW turbo?
QUOTE=Fear;1769268]I went this route because no one offered the kit like i wanted, UEL manifold, BW turbo and shortest possible IC pipes... I spent thousands more than i should have I would not go this route again.[/QUOTE] |
I built mine for my own for the satisfaction and no one else ran the IC pipes the way I wanted to. Its up and running now and it was certainly worth it. It did take me months but I enjoy the build the most.
I certainly did not save money over a kit but that wasn't the point at all. |
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Your kit requires the cutting of the crash bar right...? I'm pretty sure I know the answer but damn if it didn't I'd be all over that like flies on horse poop. I want to see more use of the EFR series on this engine. |
Yes, you're right, it does require some minor cutting. I know not everyone is keen on that. But hopefully somebody pulls the trigger on an EFR set up soon. I have got a few requests.
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I started this journey a year ago, MAP wasn't an option or wasn't on my radar. I don't know how i like the turbo, its being installed right now. I'll have it back on the 5th of july... Custom fab work and all... |
Surprised @Sportsguy83 hasn't chimed in. Probably watching the heat blowing out the pacers
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I had met KAB, the shop that designed my kit, and they had told me they could make me a kit even before I got AVO.... I was like "yeah right...". Well, after having a few issues with AVO, I approached them and they still said we can make you a kit no problems. They had already helped me move on from the AVO troubles fixing it, so they proved there work to my eyes with that. BEST choice I ever made. I got good prices on everything, mind you, not everything was at cost or gifted, but again, got a great deal on it all. Went form a kit with issues to great quality, great GTX turbo, short IC piping, etc.... The car became what I really wanted it to be. The price difference betwen what I got and what I had spent in AVO was less than $500. I wouldn't do it any other way..... Only thing is I would have gone with custom from day one, but you live and you learn. It is EXTREMELY important that the shop you choose for DIY is really good, reputable, etc... Quote:
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We are trying a few different companents betwee both (different injectors, fuel pump most likely, possibly other obsolete items) just to see what works best. |
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I'd like to see some results from the various EFR turbos including the 7163. In Perrin's tests the 7163 on the STi made more power than the 6758 and spooled sooner. The main benefit is the response of it is really really good, better than any Garett turbo.
The 7163 also just recently become available in a v-band inlet so using one with a current v-band up pipe setup would be fairly easy, the downpipe would likely just have to be modified. Although I can't remember if the EFR v-band inlet is the same as the GT28/30 but I think it is. |
I'm kind of getting lost. Do any of you have links to these parts you're using?
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Custom kit locally. I like to be a little unique than everyone else. I put my suggestions, they implement it, they develop more stuff on their shop BRZ, etc. Learn a lot as you go, I enjoy the process as well as the quality.
GT3076 9psi, 297whp/225tq, AT. shop BRZ is pushing 400whp, trying to blow it up to learn its limits. still going strong. |
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I DIY'd because it was cheap and I got exactly what I wanted.
There's no reason why you can't turbo your car without breaking the bank. I used a manifold from a kit maker because it wasn't worth my time to make one. Then I rebuilt a 2nd hand garett and did some custom piping. All up it'd be about $2k. |
If you're going to piece together a kit, you're best bet is to use a manifold designed for an ej.
Just get the design that suits where you want to put the turbo. |
ive done both. I've pieced together kits for Toyota trucks fabricating as I went along. I saved a lot of money but those projects were constantly evolving and it was never finished.
I bought a FBM kit for my FRS because I needed to be able to install it and trailer it to my tuner in the same weekend. Done and done. I spent a little more but it didn't take 6 months to fab it myself on nights and weekends. It all depends on your resources. Some guys on here could build a custom kit in a weekend. But I don't have a pipe bender or a welder anymore so that would have been a complication. Or the spare parts collection I used to have. If I had the time I would have built it myself no question. But I paid for convenience, customer service (lj at fullblown) and compatibility. If I ever break something I can call up FBM or another kit owner and get a random part instead of trying to refab a one off part again. |
I am dying to see how the fa20 does on a Borg s366 w/11 blade option
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I did both sort of. No one offers a T4 Twin scroll or a inner cooler as big as I wanted so I had Spencer Fabrication build a custom setup. As far as the money goes it was comparable to most kits but I did supply a few parts. The reason I chose this route is I have specific goal I wanted to reach that few kits could come close too and the fitment is perfect. I'm super picky about my car. All in all I would definitely do it the way I did. I couldn't be happier!!!!
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I did a custom set up locally. This will be the first mention on a new kit being available for the twin.
http://www.driven-fabrication.com/co...-efr-turbo-kit I went to Driven Fabrication in Cincinnati. They are predominately an EVO shop but have been taking more and more Subaru builds lately. The kit they offer is based off my car. It's an EL manifold, BW EFR 6758 (other EFRs optional). Front crash bar, fabricated intercooler, etc etc. The quality of the manifold blew me away, they use 316 sch 10 pipe that is back purged while welding. These manifolds are virtually guaranteed to never crack or fail. Coming from the EVO world where builds are pushing 1000hp, this level is fabrication is necessary. Overkill for a twin, yes. But no one else offers something this heavy duty. Would I do it again? I spent roughly $9k on my build. Looking at a comparable kit available from anyone else, I would say I would have spend close to the same after everything was said and done. I upgraded radiator, oil cooler, clutch, fuel system, catch cans etc etc. So yes, Im happy with the route I took. I have a solid turbo set up and am very happy with it. Pushing 12psi on e85 flex (DT). http://i.imgur.com/nOXEcIo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/a1DXjCW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/naWCxtU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zZxNonq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/nyWA6aP.jpg |
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Does everyone still use the metal undertray? Debating if I should keep it on or not..
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