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Shiv@Openflash 05-27-2014 08:44 PM

OpenFlash Manager v1.08.3 now available for download (FLKC)
 
Hi guys,
Please download the newest version of OF Manager. In this latest version, we fixed a few minor bugs. One of the issues fixed was logging of Fine Learning Knock Correction. Earlier versions of OF Manager weren't interpreting the small negative ignition retard values correction (showing 100 instead). This fixes that as shown in the datalog below. FKLC is only active in USDM ROMs right now (C and D family). Now that this bug is fixed, we will expand support to other ROMs.

v1.60 OTS Stage 2 UEL (91oct):
http://datazap.me/u/shivvishnu/oft-l...0&data=1-10-12

We will be releasing v1.60 OTS maps very soon. The mapping is done. Now I just have to find the time to sit down in create files versions for all the different ROM types :)

Cheers,
Shiv

Malt 05-27-2014 09:09 PM

Awesome Shiv, thanks!

Do you have any plans to start building your OTS maps off the newest CalID B01 at some point for those of us that don't want the hassle of going to the dealer and trying to convince them to update our ECU's?

ScionFrsFan 05-27-2014 09:22 PM

What is new with 1.60 update?! Anything different for el e85 maps?

Shiv@Openflash 05-27-2014 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malt (Post 1762759)
Awesome Shiv, thanks!

Do you have any plans to start building your OTS maps off the newest CalID B01 at some point for those of us that don't want the hassle of going to the dealer and trying to convince them to update our ECU's?

It's definitely a future release. And it's something I've already evaluated on the road pretty carefully.. The only thing that has kept us from doing this is that we have yet to implement launch control and FFS in B01 ROMs. Once we do that, it makes sense to make the switch. But frankly, I have yet to quantify any benefit to running our OTS A01-based maps over a similarly mapped B01-based map. So it's not been a big priority for us. But perhaps the next major map release (v2.0 OTS) will be B01 based. Just wish there were more days in the week to get FFS and LC implemented :)

Shiv@Openflash 05-27-2014 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan (Post 1762789)
What is new with 1.60 update?! Anything different for el e85 maps?

In v1.60, we have made the following changes:

-Added support for A01F ROM
-Extensively revised Stage 1 mapping (new MAF scaling, new fuel mapping, new ignition mapping, tweaked VVT mapping)
-Revised Stage 2 (revised ignition mapping)
-Added both 91 an 93 oct map variants
-No changes to E85 maps at this time.

By the time the v1.60 maps are released, there may be a few more changes. But that is all for now :)

wparsons 05-27-2014 09:29 PM

Sweet, time to update which version I'm running... still on 1.56b!

AL008 05-27-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1762805)
In v1.60, we have made the following changes:

-Added support for A01F ROM
-Extensively revised Stage 1 mapping (new MAF scaling, new fuel mapping, new ignition mapping, tweaked VVT mapping)
-Revised Stage 2 (revised ignition mapping)
-Added both 91 an 93 oct map variants
-No changes to E85 maps at this time.

By the time the v1.60 maps are released, there may be a few more changes. But that is all for now :)

When you say: Revised Stage 2, will Stage 2 get all of those "Extensive revisions" that stage 1 got such as (new MAF scaling, new fuel mapping, new ignition mapping, tweaked VVT mapping)?

Luckrider 05-28-2014 12:02 AM

This sounds like good news. Are the lack of changes for e85 from lack of opportunity to tweak or from an understanding that not much is to be gained or improved?

zc06_kisstherain 05-28-2014 12:20 AM

wow another update! gotta update now

Danklvr 05-28-2014 12:53 AM

Glad to see continued support for this platform! Thanks Shiv and all at Vishnu for your continued hard work!

ScionFrsFan 05-28-2014 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckrider (Post 1763127)
This sounds like good news. Are the lack of changes for e85 from lack of opportunity to tweak or from an understanding that not much is to be gained or improved?

Good question! I hope there is more to be gained lol

Vash 05-28-2014 01:46 AM

Does it include the Crawford BPB maps too?

aero.kit 05-28-2014 10:28 AM

And what about maps for 700G series ?

I mean for Crawford BPB .

And what about BPB + Vortech Kit .

Thank you :)

Boofneenee 05-28-2014 10:53 AM

Woot. 93 maps available soon!

If you don't mind, where did you make changes to the ignition timing for the Stg 2 maps? Did you advance or retard? I tend to get a bit of knock corr while on the highway cruising around 3k. I attribute that to ignition timing but it is also very likely that its highway crusing and expected in that range.

Thx again for your continued support for these products. I got the OFH and OFT and together has transformed my car for the better. Throttle response is much more intuitive.

akyp 05-28-2014 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1762805)
In v1.60, we have made the following changes:

-Added support for A01F ROM
-Extensively revised Stage 1 mapping (new MAF scaling, new fuel mapping, new ignition mapping, tweaked VVT mapping)
-Revised Stage 2 (revised ignition mapping)
-Added both 91 an 93 oct map variants
-No changes to E85 maps at this time.

By the time the v1.60 maps are released, there may be a few more changes. But that is all for now :)

Thanks for your work.

For those of us with 98 RON fuel (no ethanol), should we use 91 or 93 maps? What are the primary differences?

Lytheum 05-28-2014 01:07 PM

will we have to wait for a .bin release of 1.6? have 700c still and cant use the .dev file.

TM 05-28-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aero.kit (Post 1763627)
And what about maps for 700G series ?

I mean for Crawford BPB .

And what about BPB + Vortech Kit .

Thank you :)

Do you have both? There's not much to gain from the BPB if you have a Vortech kit installed. Does your experience differ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by akyp (Post 1763698)
Thanks for your work.

For those of us with 98 RON fuel (no ethanol), should we use 91 or 93 maps? What are the primary differences?

98 is equivalent to 94 AKI, so I would run the 93 map. I'm assuming the 93 is more aggressive and runs more advanced timing.

aero.kit 05-28-2014 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TM (Post 1764102)
Do you have both? There's not much to gain from the BPB if you have a Vortech kit installed. Does your experience differ?

At the moment i don't have.

Target70 05-28-2014 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aero.kit (Post 1764110)
At the moment i don't have.

a quote from shiv about the BPB and Phantom, but I assume the same results with any Force Induction application.

"Shiv:
Anyway, tested the BPB yesterday with both the Phantom and NA (full bolt on- OFH + Custom bat-back) set ups. With a tank full of 93oct. With the Phantom, it doesn't look like a good match. Lost power just about everywhere. It didn't look promising so I didn't bother with custom tuning with the BPBs. I will probably give it a try when more time permits though. But these results make sense as more airflow would suggest shortening the runners are the way to go."

here is the full post: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=218

aero.kit 05-28-2014 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Target70 (Post 1764332)
a quote from shiv about the BPB and Phantom, but I assume the same results with any Force Induction application.

"Shiv:
Anyway, tested the BPB yesterday with both the Phantom and NA (full bolt on- OFH + Custom bat-back) set ups. With a tank full of 93oct. With the Phantom, it doesn't look like a good match. Lost power just about everywhere. It didn't look promising so I didn't bother with custom tuning with the BPBs. I will probably give it a try when more time permits though. But these results make sense as more airflow would suggest shortening the runners are the way to go."

here is the full post: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=218

thank's

rickjames 05-29-2014 11:28 PM

Hi Shiv,

I'm running a modified Stage 1 700G map (for Australian fuels). Working awesome!

Just FYI:
Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1762699)
FKLC is only active in USDM ROMs right now (C and D family)

should be FLKC.

When will the new maps be available??

Carlitoz3 05-29-2014 11:34 PM

Patiently waiting on NA BPB+EL+e85 tune :)

Malt 05-29-2014 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlitoz3 (Post 1767426)
Patiently waiting on NA BPB+EL+e85 tune :)

Pretty sure shiv said that with E85 and the BPB's there wasn't much gains to be had. Looking for the quote now.

Shiv@Openflash 05-30-2014 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malt (Post 1767447)
Pretty sure shiv said that with E85 and the BPB's there wasn't much gains to be had. Looking for the quote now.

Yes, BPB and E85 isn't a really good match since the BPB take away from top end power (above 6500rpm). And that is were E85 maps really shine!

Luckrider 05-30-2014 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1767489)
Yes, BPB and E85 isn't a really good match since the BPB take away from top end power (above 6500rpm). And that is were E85 maps really shine!

You aren't kidding. I have been paying very specific attention to my driving and the performance of the car since I am going to be racing at the Wicked Big Meet on the 8th and I feel two distinct (but small) bumps in power. One where the cam phasing is and one higher up at the top. I am more focused on the feel than the numbers though.

AL008 05-30-2014 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL008 (Post 1762899)
When you say: Revised Stage 2, will Stage 2 get all of those "Extensive revisions" that stage 1 got such as (new MAF scaling, new fuel mapping, new ignition mapping, tweaked VVT mapping)?

@shiv,

Would you be able to provide any insight into this please.

Thanks.

Triumphrider 05-30-2014 06:35 AM

@shiv@vishnu is the v1.60 that you put in your first post good to download? I'm just getting ready to got to stage 2 UEL on 91oct so would that be my most up to date tune?

Andrew025 05-30-2014 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triumphrider (Post 1767889)
@shiv@vishnu is the v1.60 that you put in your first post good to download? I'm just getting ready to got to stage 2 UEL on 91oct so would that be my most up to date tune?

That's just a log of the 1.60 tune.

Triumphrider 05-30-2014 06:46 AM

Haha I'm thanks... Shows how new I am to this stuff.

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Carlitoz3 05-30-2014 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckrider (Post 1767500)
You aren't kidding. I have been paying very specific attention to my driving and the performance of the car since I am going to be racing at the Wicked Big Meet on the 8th and I feel two distinct (but small) bumps in power. One where the cam phasing is and one higher up at the top. I am more focused on the feel than the numbers though.

So which tune are you running?

Luckrider 05-30-2014 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlitoz3 (Post 1767902)
So which tune are you running?

Stage 2 EL e85 on a totally stock car (just the tune, wheels, and tires).

SCHN3LL 05-30-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1767489)
Yes, BPB and E85 isn't a really good match since the BPB take away from top end power (above 6500rpm). And that is were E85 maps really shine!


Just placed an order for the OFT, can't wait!

Great to hear shiv, I was on the fence getting the BPBs with the tune but I have e85 a couple blocks away... :party0030:

ScionFrsFan 05-31-2014 04:47 PM

This might sound crazy since I don't know a damn thing when it comes to creating tunes.
Is there anyway to provide more power down low power (E85) with the trade off of losing power up high? I'm guessing if that was possible, someone would of already done it lol.

PS: Is there any discussion on making the E85 maps "stronger" or are they already topped off?

steve99 05-31-2014 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan (Post 1770415)
This might sound crazy since I don't know a damn thing when it comes to creating tunes.
Is there anyway to provide more power down low power (E85) with the trade off of losing power up high? I'm guessing if that was possible, someone would of already done it lol.

PS: Is there any discussion on making the E85 maps "stronger" or are they already topped off?

If you are not already running headers that will give a bit more torque midrange, uel headers seem slightly better at low midrange torque than el headers but el generally produce slighty more top end power.

Billet poer blocks BPB, will bring your peak power a bit lower in rpm range and a bit more midrange but they dont work well with FI or E85.

E85 already provides more torque throught rpm range due to ability to run more ignition advance on that fuel.

Even though OFT tunes are off the shelf one size fits all they seem to perform well even when compared to custom tunes or people who have opted for custom e tune

Their is maybe a few percent extra to be gained in places and maybe tidy up maf scale and lean it out slightly ,clean up bit of knock on some fuels but no big gains to be had.

Rule of thumb with these cars seems to be NA plus full bolt ons and tune will net you maybe 35 wheel horsepower on E85 maybe 25 on good petrol.

If you want more FI is the way to go

There is just no big gain NA

ScionFrsFan 05-31-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 1770550)
If you are not already running headers that will give a bit more torque midrange, uel headers seem slightly better at low midrange torque than el headers but el generally produce slighty more top end power.

Billet poer blocks BPB, will bring your peak power a bit lower in rpm range and a bit more midrange but they dont work well with FI or E85.

E85 already provides more torque throught rpm range due to ability to run more ignition advance on that fuel.

Even though OFT tunes are off the shelf one size fits all they seem to perform well even when compared to custom tunes or people who have opted for custom e tune

Their is maybe a few percent extra to be gained in places and maybe tidy up maf scale and lean it out slightly ,clean up bit of knock on some fuels but no big gains to be had.

Rule of thumb with these cars seems to be NA plus full bolt ons and tune will net you maybe 35 wheel horsepower on E85 maybe 25 on good petrol.

If you want more FI is the way to go

There is just no big gain NA

Thank You! Very informative!

wparsons 06-01-2014 10:14 AM

Any ETA on v1.6 tune release date?

mid_life_crisis 06-02-2014 11:44 AM

Tune tease
 
Much as part of me was thrilled to learn that you are working on this, it's been a week now. Stop announcing this stuff when it's still so far away damnit! :brokenheart:


Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1762805)
In v1.60, we have made the following changes:

-Added support for A01F ROM
-Extensively revised Stage 1 mapping (new MAF scaling, new fuel mapping, new ignition mapping, tweaked VVT mapping)
-Revised Stage 2 (revised ignition mapping)
-Added both 91 an 93 oct map variants
-No changes to E85 maps at this time.

By the time the v1.60 maps are released, there may be a few more changes. But that is all for now :)


TM 06-04-2014 03:37 PM

Can't wait til this is out, just so I know shiv will be one step closer to working on the Phantom ESC e85 tune.

rickjames 06-09-2014 10:12 PM

Poor Shiv
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis (Post 1772865)
Much as part of me was thrilled to learn that you are working on this, it's been a week now. Stop announcing this stuff when it's still so far away damnit! :brokenheart:

I think all our whinging scared off Shiv :(

phobos512 06-09-2014 10:20 PM

Folks, be patient. @shiv@vishnu's not going to let us down.


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