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Originally Posted by diss7
(Post 1761130)
So I'm pretty close biting the bullet and getting the essex endurance kit for my track car.
Just wished there were more reviews and feedback on here. Lots of info about the sprint kit, not so much on the endurance kit.
Any info I'm missing..? Feel free to PM me if you'd rather. :thanks:
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The reason you don't see more feedback on the Endurance Kit is that there just aren't as many Endurance Kits on cars. Most people choose the Sprint Kit because it's lighter, has less expensive spare discs, and the initial cost of entry is lower. For many people, the Endurance Kit would just be overkill. We've had the Sprint Kit on track FT86's up to 350whp without any problems, so it is extremely stout.
As mentioned above, the only "downsides" to the Endurance Kit vs. the Sprint Kit are as follows (keep in mind these are only "downsides" if you don't need the added thermal mass and cooling of the Endurance Kit!:)):
- Endurance Kit weighs 5 lbs. more per side
- Replacement iron discs cost $249 vs. the $165 discs in the Sprint Kit
- More expensive initial purchase price of $2599 vs. $2099.
As for
wheel fitment, the Endurance Kit actually fits better on some 17" wheels than the Sprint Kit. Since the Endurance disc is slightly larger in diameter, it sits further away from the hub. Most wheels curve inward as they approach the hub, so the caliper tends to actually have more wheel face clearance when it's moved out a bit. On 16" wheels, then you'd have to consider the clearance of the caliper on the barrel of the wheel, and the Sprint Kit may be the superior fit. But if you're only going to run 17's or larger, you'll likely have more clearance with the Endurance Kit.
Your performance expectation when purchasing the Endurance Kit should be the same as if you were buying the Sprint Kit. The calipers in both kits are essentially identical, and the disc hat and brake line designs are also basically the same. All of the
positive reviews and feedback we get on the Sprint Kits still hold true, you're just getting a few added features as a bonus:
- Larger, fully floating 325x32mm discs (instead of fixed 299x32mm discs)- Provides additional thermal mass for high HP or lengthy track sessions. We run the Endurance discs on tons of other cars with 500-600hp without any problems on track (Corvettes, M3's, Evo's, Late Model circle track racers, etc.).
- Integrated brake cooling duct attachment- Makes it easier to connect brake duct hoses, and ensures that cooling air is funneled precisely where it needs to go.
That pretty much sums up the differences. The Endurance Kit is sort of the "end all, be all" choice, and that's why we created it. I can't imagine anyone ever having problems with that setup, even if they push stupid HP numbers or run it all day and night on the track.
Most of our FT86 customers have sub-350 whp, and most only run track sessions in the 20-30 minute range. For those individuals, the Sprint Kit is the correct solution that we push them towards, and that's why you see more feedback on it. If you plan to exceed those HP numbers or run true endurance racing, then the Endurance Kit will be the proper fit.
I think as the FT86 platform matures, we'll see more feedback on the Endurance Kit. Now that the platform is a couple of years old people are really starting to push the power levels up, developing the chassis further, doing more engine swaps, etc. As that occurs brake demands & requirements will also increase stepwise.
Hopefully that all makes sense. Either of our Competition Kits will get the job done, it just depends on where your needs lie now, or where they will lie in the future as you develop your car.:cheers:
