Where?

Passenger sensor maybe if it was coming from inside the seat like OP says?


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Maybe it's cuz I'm a smoker but I find it extremely hard to believe a cherry started a fire. Knowing someone with narcolepsy who still insists on smoking and has burned holes in pretty much everything without actually starting a fire I would have to agree wiring. Also, I could be wrong but I'm going off experience and not googling anything or doing any form of research, doesn't the federal FSC add a chemical that's supposed to prevent a cigarette from starting a fire in some way? I have had holes burned in leather and cloth car seats before, unfortunately, both by dropping a cigarette and just by having a cherry fall off, and have never caused an actual fire. I also find it hard to believe, if a cherry did fall off your cigarette, it would still be burning by the time it found it's way under the passenger seat. Now if you said your driver seat spontaneously combusted while smoking and driving we'd have another story......

smoking doesnt start fires? these people would disagree

http://www.nfpa.org/research/reports...king-materials

Did anyone say that smoking doesn't cause fires? Don't think so. Pretty sure it was just pointed out how unlikely it is for a cigarette cherry to start a fire under a passenger seat. Nobody ever said cigarettes dont start fires. I did mention how my mom burns everything but never causes fires. Btw your article talks about FSC reducing fires and talks about how fires due to cigarettes have been down 73% since 1980. Good read but irrelevant as you obviously didn't comprehend what I wrote.

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the way your post is worded, it comes off as "its impoosible to start a fire from smoking".

the article did state that fires from smoking have gone down 30% in the years but there are still fires from smoking.

edit: your mom is a very lucky woman, seriously

Not at all. You take it how you want it dude. You are making assumptions based off of something I said. Which I based off of first hand experience. The point I was getting at, which I stated, is that it is highly unlikely for a cigarette cherry from the drivers cigarette to start a fire under a passenger seat of a car. And no the article pointed out FSC accounted for 30% and the total % was 70 since 1980. Long story short, you misunderstood what I said and made some assumptions. It's OK though, we all do that sometimes.

Edit: thanks I know. You have no idea how scary it is sometimes. Also, not trying to be a ****. Just don't want to be misunderstood. I'm also very blunt at times :/

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i get it

im just trying to say while it may be unlikey, its still possible and its just as unlikey its something electrical (as long as no modding or finger fucking was done to the passenger seat)

I'll agree with that. I'm very confused as to how you were able to type finger fucking and this thing starred out d I c k

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To everyone referencing the Toyota recall regarding heated seats - yes there was such a recall but it was a compliance issue with the burning rate of the fabric (not that the heaters were likely to start a fire).

But that's irrelevant anyway because 1. The FRS wasn't covered in the recall and 2. The OP's car likely doesn't have seat heaters anyway (since his is white and based on his post history has a 2013 and therefore not a monogram).

I'd say smoking is likely the culprit. OP were your windows down at the time? I wonder if a piece of ash got down there and the wind slowly kindled a fire. Either way, take it to the dealership and have them look at it.

How much current does the seat airbag carry? Its the only thing i can think of that if it shorted could carry enough to cause a fire. Sensors if they shorted would do nothing. We don't have powered seats, I can see that having enough current to do the job, or heated seats obviously.

There's this guy you need to meet. His name's Occam and he has this Razor thing he wants to talk to you about..

have you heard anything back from the dealership?

And you threw away this evidence?


It's a waste of time for them to investigate what happened? What did you want/expect?

Not buying what the OP is selling.