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NWFRS 05-22-2014 02:29 PM

How to repair clear coat eaten by bird droppings?
 
Any tips or suggestions for repairing clear coat that has been eaten by bird poop? It must have been terribly acidic, because I cleaned it the day it happened, but it looks like it ate down into the clear a little. It looks rough. There are two locations, one on the hood and one on the cabin roof. Both about the size of a quarter. I already washed and clay barred last night. Any suggestions?

This is a regular occurrence for myself and my coworkers. Seagulls nest on the roof, and nothing can be done because the Port owns our building.

Thanks.

White64Goat 05-22-2014 05:44 PM

Car Cover ...............they might be a hassle, but is ruined paint not worth it?

humfrz 05-25-2014 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NWFRS (Post 1753478)
Any tips or suggestions for repairing clear coat that has been eaten by bird poop? It must have been terribly acidic, because I cleaned it the day it happened, but it looks like it ate down into the clear a little. It looks rough. There are two locations, one on the hood and one on the cabin roof. Both about the size of a quarter. I already washed and clay barred last night. Any suggestions?

This is a regular occurrence for myself and my coworkers. Seagulls nest on the roof, and nothing can be done because the Port owns our building.

Thanks.

Yep, get to and eliminate the root problem .... the makers and depositors of uric acid ...... :D

humfrz

dannyboy8793 05-25-2014 09:50 AM

LOL @ humfrs,

Turbo95eg6 05-25-2014 01:05 PM

Only way is leveling the clear with a polish.

speargunsandracecars 05-25-2014 10:24 PM

Using a Porter Cable with a very fine to fine polishing compound will get rid of it. Don't forget to apply wax afterwards.

Junkman2008 05-28-2014 11:51 AM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsAizS6d064"]Bird Poop Etching Repair - Part II - YouTube[/ame]

Poodles 06-07-2014 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1763728)



Ugh, that guy doesn't know how to use a clay bar correctly and scratches the hell out of the paint.


I'd follow Larry's advice here:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgHd1twCHYM"]How to Wet Sand a Water Mark in Black Paint - YouTube[/ame]


Main issue is that the BMW's paint is very very hard vs the twins having pretty soft paint. But taking that video on it's own is a bit dangerous. As a general rule he steps up on aggressiveness until the blemish is gone and wouldn't go straight to sanding unless it's necessary (keep in mind he does this for a living and works on priceless cars all the time as well so his experience plays into this).


If you don't feel comfortable doing such things to your car, you can always hire a detailer!

Junkman2008 06-07-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1783773)
Ugh, that guy doesn't know how to use a clay bar correctly and scratches the hell out of the paint.

This coming from someone who doesn't even know how to fix paint? Now that's funny! http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ileys/rofl.gif

Lord knows, I've NEVER worked on anything more expensive than a Geo Metro so I must be a hack!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n9AZFYfH-E"]Minor Scratch Removal on a Lamborghini Murcielago - YouTube[/ame]

Junkman2008 06-07-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stay Fresh Car Care (Post 1784354)
We will chime in here now. Wet sanding is very dangerous if you have no experience.

Yes it is, and that is stressed in every video that I have ever posted on the subject.

radroach 06-07-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1783928)
This coming from someone who doesn't even know how to fix paint? Now that's funny!

Respect for the biz, I watched your video, but you were claying the same spot on a car for minutes on end, which seems completely unnecessary and you could see it adding more defects to the paint.

Junkman2008 06-07-2014 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 1784464)
Respect for the biz, I watched your video, but you were claying the same spot on a car for minutes on end, which seems completely unnecessary and you could see it adding more defects to the paint.

... and that damaged was REMOVED with ONE pass of a light polish. Also, the bird etching damaged was removed. So where's the issue here? :iono:

Add to that, it was aftermarket paint on that fascia, which is much softer than OEM.

Poodles 06-08-2014 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1783928)
This coming from someone who doesn't even know how to fix paint? Now that's funny! http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ileys/rofl.gif

Lord knows, I've NEVER worked on anything more expensive than a Geo Metro so I must be a hack!

Minor Scratch Removal on a Lamborghini Murcielago - YouTube


Apparently I dunno what I'm doing because I don't make an ass of myself on youtube :laughabove:



You are a hack because you're using a clay bar as an abrasive.


Also, if you haven't heard of Larry, you're living under a rock...

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Originally Posted by Stay Fresh Car Care (Post 1784354)
We will chime in here now. Wet sanding is very dangerous if you have no experience. We talked to the OP over the phone and sent him our Refresh 3 polish with a few hex pads. Keep in mind the OP has no experience in paint correction. We want to start novice detailers off in baby steps.

If he can not remove this problem by hand we offered the OP a future deal on the porter cable 7424XP and our polishing pads.


Any paint correction is "dangerous" if you have no experience. Also notice I said:


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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1783773)
Main issue is that the BMW's paint is very very hard vs the twins having pretty soft paint. But taking that video on it's own is a bit dangerous. As a general rule he steps up on aggressiveness until the blemish is gone and wouldn't go straight to sanding unless it's necessary (keep in mind he does this for a living and works on priceless cars all the time as well so his experience plays into this).


If you don't feel comfortable doing such things to your car, you can always hire a detailer!



Reading helps.

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Originally Posted by radroach (Post 1784464)
Respect for the biz, I watched your video, but you were claying the same spot on a car for minutes on end, which seems completely unnecessary and you could see it adding more defects to the paint.


It's the equivalent of using a standard socket on a metric nut, sure it might work but you're using the wrong tools and it was never intended for that.

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Originally Posted by Junkman2008 (Post 1784475)
... and that damaged was REMOVED with ONE pass of a light polish. Also, the bird etching damaged was removed. So where's the issue here? :iono:

Add to that, it was aftermarket paint on that fascia, which is much softer than OEM.



The issue is you're using clay bar as an abrasive. It's not the intended usage of clay, and you're teaching bad technique for claying.

Junkman2008 06-08-2014 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Poodles (Post 1784784)
Apparently I dunno what I'm doing because I don't make an ass of myself on youtube :laughabove:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...mileys/HGH.gif

G-awesome 06-13-2014 01:03 PM

a had a bird poop undigested food on my car once...its more disgusting than the usual white poo. You can see all the seeds its ate...

Turbo95eg6 06-13-2014 01:44 PM

Junkman just got caught in the feels

Junkman2008 06-13-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 1794703)
Junkman just got caught in the feels

What are the feels?

t.chk 06-13-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1758318)
Yep, get to and eliminate the root problem .... the makers and depositors of uric acid ...... :D

humfrz

I like your style. I would recommend the benelli M4 with extended tube (8+1 shells, no chance of over penetration and accidentally killing off neighbors)...or if you state is kinder the Striker 12 semiauto drum-fed shotgun.

AVodka14 06-13-2014 07:22 PM

Why is it that there is always some resistance when it comes to recommendations in these forums?

Junkman makes good videos and I like his work. I am in the process of gathering all the necessary products to do my first polish. To each his own I guess.

Personally, I had great luck with using Meguiar's ultimate compound on a bird etching on my Raven FRS.

humfrz 06-13-2014 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by t.chk (Post 1795265)
I like your style. I would recommend the benelli M4 with extended tube (8+1 shells, no chance of over penetration and accidentally killing off neighbors)...or if you state is kinder the Striker 12 semiauto drum-fed shotgun.

Since we are shooting seagulls off a roof ...... maybe both our weapons would be overkill.

Maybe a rifle in .22 (WMR) with 40 grain jacked hollow points would do the job......:D

It would make less of a report and cheaper to shoot.....more sporting too ..... :paddle:


humfrz

t.chk 06-13-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1795458)
Since we are shooting seagulls off a roof ...... maybe both our weapons would be overkill.

Maybe a rifle in .22 (WMR) with 40 grain jacked hollow points would do the job......:D

It would make less of a report and cheaper to shoot.....more sporting too ..... :paddle:


humfrz

well if we are going to cost effectiveness we can get ye old sling shot out, or Red Ryder BB gun (being careful not to shoot yer eye out).

On topic: I had a massive bird poop on it, which causes what I thought was a bubble in the clear coat and it buffed right out when I got it detailed. I do not know what they did unfortunately...sorry OP. :(


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