Scion is great for safety. About a year ago got it by some idiot while I was going 40 through an intersection with a green light and this idiot decides it was the perfect time to turn left in my front driver side. Only had bruises due to all the airbags. This was in a 09 tc and wife said you can get whatever you want as long as it was a scion so frs it was :)

And remember, if it's really bad weather, driving in reverse is the same as having front wheel drive.

Never turn traction control off in the rain, or in general for that matter unless you're looking to slide in some open secure environment. I always laugh at idiots who drive around town with traction control off. Next thing they know they're in a guard rail because they had to be cool at the red light intersection or sharp onramp.

Good judgement and safe driving pratices should always go above relying on a car's aid. Having TC off has a ton of advantages if used properly in poor weather conditions. Just because it is off doesn't mean the tires will spin, throttle control goes a long way.

TC isn't going to stop some dumbass flying off a on/off ramp if their speed is simply to great for them to control.

Aside from maybe getting out of parked snow, name one.

I haven't read all the responses, so maybe someone already said this.. I think you made a great choice choosing the 86, it's pretty much the car that'll make you feel most confident on the road. I had never driven anything that provided this level of feedback before... Now I don't know how I could drive anything that doesn't provide that. the car communicates everything it does very clearly to you, and controlling it in all situations is very instinctive.

As others said, keep nannies on, and take tracking classes. It'll make you enjoy the car more AND make you a safer driver.

I just scrolled to the bottom of thread every time i saw someone mention about traction control and trying to slide the car.

NO, just drive the car normally dont mess with any traction stuff in the car until you have a really good feel (months of time) of the car and with enough driving experience.

You have to learn how to drive the car through everyday traffic and everyday situations (parking, slow drivers, people cutting you off, random people not looking for traffic when crossing the street.. etc)

Once you have learned and feel confident enough THEN go to a parking lot with no cars or parking curbs and test out the car.

Edit: assuming you are really new to driving.. if not then tips to not kill yourself is taking off traction control while driving on public roads

Weird theory. Just when you think you understand how the car handles, go nuts in a parking lot and erase everything you thought you knew.

It's like teaching someone to swim.. and putting them in 10ft water with swimmies and going.. "Learn to float first."

The best way is to get them on their tippy toes in shallow water, and let them learn the technique. Then they'll really know their limits. They'll never go in the deep end when they know their limits. Just like they won't spin out their car accidentally because they actually tested how it handles.

But that's just my opinion :bonk:

Keeping momentum up a steep incline.

Lol not really, but I guess. I was just saying like he could explore a bit with the car to learn the sliding experience. Of course its in a open area safe from no one, I didnt tell him to learn the car and then risk his life and try it in public roads. To your swimming example learning to float and then jumping into 10 ft of water risks your life because learning to float vs actual swimming a huge difference compared to sliding in public roads than a open safe parking lot lol. But thats just my opinion. :bonk: