FS: Like new OFT
 

Selling my nearly new OFT. It is completely unmated, and ready for a new car. Selling because I'm going FI, and I feel ecutek would be a better fit.

Comes with all cables

first $450 takes it. Will ship to the lower 48. Will ship internationally but buyer pays fees.

http://i.imgur.com/zpav1Bqh.jpg

Did you use it once?

SOLD!

So OP scammed you with OFT?

Not necessarily. Op may have gone through the correct process to unmate the OFT from his car.

I have no idea or background on anything here... I'm just going by the review posted for this transaction, so I want buyer to give me more info :thumbup:

Ah, I missed the review. As I was, carry on.

The OFT I received from him had all his information on it. After that...the events I wrote on the seller's review took place.

So he never unmarried it?? Did you get your money back or what happened?

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Just PM you.

Yes, once he upgraded the dispute to a claim, it was up to Paypal to make the final decision. The claim was closed within a few hours and I received a full refund.

Does OFT not provide some sort of unlocking service?

I made a claim because scionfrsfan sent me an empty box. He claims there was issues with the oft, but since I never got it back I can't comment if something was really wrong or not. I called vishnu and they said all he had to do was plug it in and hit erase all data. He told me he couldn't find that button. He was sketchy from day 1. I can upload our texts that show him demand a refund before he sent the device back, when I said I won't give him a refund without him sending it back he sent me back an empty box then won the dispute.

Hmmmm so who is scamming who?

Ft86clubception

I'm confused cause he had another thread selling an OFT that was created after this thread.

I had 2 OFTs. One for my car, one for my wifes. I sold the other OFT to someone and he is more than happy with it.

Well, he has the money...

@Dave-ROR

Something seems fishy around here. And you seem to be the most proactive (best- we all love you) moderator, so I suggest you take a look at this.

Mods are already looking into it. :)

Oh ok. Man this sucks.

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Paypal refunded my money after shipping back OFT.

Just read my trader rating review for the story.

He's saying he got an empty box. So who's the liar?

I want to see the outcome of this

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For anyone not involved here are the highlights…

5-9-14 (Prepaying) Asked twice if the it was unmated.

ScionFrsFan: “Do you have a manual or auto? You said it's unmated? You were able to erase your car file?”
Csworldfan: “Manual. Yeah I unmated it. When you first hook it up it saves your cars rom, once you release the stock rom it erases all save files from your car. Makes it to where you can use it on another car.”
ScionFrsFan: “So it basically brand new lol? There is nothing on the tablet?”
Csworldfan: “That is correct. It does have the newer firmware though. But I don't see how that could be taken as a bad thing”

5/14/14
• Received OFT.
• Device is still matted.
Video recordings and pictures of matted device.

After texting Csworldfan:
He told me that after speaking with Vishnu; I still would be able to erase his information on my own.

Not true.

Robert@vishnu: “You will need to contact the seller and have the original file loaded back onto his car. After that, the (seller) will need go into OpenFlash Manager (computer software) and erase data. Once its erased and unmarried then is ready for resell. You will need to send the tablet back to the seller because at this point its likely he still has a tune file on his car. Even if you were to send it back to us we won't be able to do anything with it due to the fact that original file is not loaded back into the car. If you have any further questions you can email us at sales@vishnutuning.com.”

After telling him that I had to ship the device back; he agreed to do whatever the necessary steps were to do a complete reset, then ship it back to me. However I was afraid that if I ship the device back, he could screw me over. He would have the OFT (That works for his car) and the money wanted there to be a third party involved, for protection. Therefore, I requested that he should buy the device back using PayPal. He didn’t want to do that. I was okay with this, but still wanted PayPal to be involved as a witness. So I opened a dispute with him, that way PayPal could see the messages and agreement we made, I wanted protection. After shipping the device back, he asked me to close the case. He wanted to use the money that PayPal froze on him. He told me that I could reopen the case after closing it, which is not true.

After receiving the package he claimed that the box was empty and escalated the dispute into a claim; giving PayPal the power to come up with a resolution.

After PayPal received all of my documents, PayPal closed the case in less than a day; declaring I would be receiving a full refund.

PayPal: “We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your favor.You have indicated that a partial refund of $455.00 USD would be satisfactory. We were able to recover $455.00 USD and this amount has been credited to you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted. If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to recover the balance from the seller.”

In conclusion, this was a terrible experience. I can’t claim that Csworldfan is a con artist, this could have been just terrible luck ….

This is not my first transaction on FT86.
Cross purchased a Unichip. (PayPal)
CatDaddysBBQ purchased a Work Ab-m exhaust. (Face to face transaction.)

Both of them were happy buyers and I’m sure they would vouch for me.

fml i bought a oft from him a couple days ago -__-

Woah. So how did he sell you one if he already sold his wife's?

I also recently purchased from him(a header). Still going to give him the benefit of the doubt here but so far he has said multiple times that it would be shipped out the next day and now is ignoring messages.

If need be I'll just have my credit card company have Paypal pull the money back from him. Thankfully they're one of the few companies that actually go above and beyond to find/prosecute the seller if requested.

How many days exactly? The other thread doesn't say who he sold it to.

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drummer261982 was the person who bought it from him. (His wife's...)

This makes zero sense...

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Drummer bought the other oft. Drummer is their username on the forums.

I got that haha. Sorry my statement wasn't very clear.

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Haha. Oh I see what you were saying now.:D

I have a couple of questions:

1. @ScionFrsFan did you send him an empty box, or did you send him the device?

2. @hunter3232792 and @Drummer did you both buy an OFT from him? Did he have 3 for sale?

3. @Akari you bought a header from him? A Borla?
I also purchased a header from him which was supposed to ship out on Tuesday, but got shipped on Wed (supposedly). I have yet to receive a tracking number.

This is quite concerning now, but like yourself, I will reserve judgement until I have all the details and my header.

#needmoreinfo

I bought a HKS EL, I do believe he had gone through a couple before deciding to scrap both and go FI. I'm just hoping all is well here.

I sent him back the device. The device is useless to anyone but the person with the matted car.

Ok.

How come he is saying you sent an empty box?


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I bought the UEL. so hopefully everything is good.

When are you due to receive yours?


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