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ZionsWrath 05-13-2014 03:18 PM

unless you have 01 or maybe 86 who cares. I could have bought a 300~ but dealer was being a **** so I have a 800~, approximately late may delivery 2012. Honestly that never came into my decision lol

jdwingnut 05-13-2014 04:16 PM

stugray, congrats on having quite possibly the lowest VIN in the US out of the 12K that SOA says come in the first year.

Mine's 01665 and it matters not to me what the VIN is, as this is the car I love to drive. I have no intentions of trying to save it as a collectors car. It's driven every day.

I average 5K miles every 3 months, have done a header back exhaust, intake, ECU tune and various suspension upgrades, but nothing drastic. I intend to keep it NA, well maintained, and drive it for a long, long time. It makes me smile every time I get into it, enjoy your ride, albeit #00102 :happyanim:

alpine 05-13-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jdwingnut (Post 1734373)
stugray, congrats on having quite possibly the lowest VIN in the US out of the 12K that SOA says come in the first year.

Mine's 01665 and it matters not to me what the VIN is, as this is the car I love to drive. I have no intentions of trying to save it as a collectors car. It's driven every day.

I average 5K miles every 3 months, have done a header back exhaust, intake, ECU tune and various suspension upgrades, but nothing drastic. I intend to keep it NA, well maintained, and drive it for a long, long time. It makes me smile every time I get into it, enjoy your ride, albeit #00102 :happyanim:

but I have the lowest :cry:

jdwingnut 05-13-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by alpine (Post 1734536)
but I have the lowest :cry:

I missed that one, I stand corrected :bonk:

wbradley 05-13-2014 09:54 PM

My FR-S was produced in April 2012. First round of deliveries here. Not sure if the VIN directly correlates with production sequence. Mine ends in 1855.

Wikipedia says first production began Feb2, 2012 for March deliveries (JDM?). Initially there were 7000 orders for Toyota and 3500 for Subaru. It makes sense they would have made 1855 for Toyota by the time mine was produced.

Would be interested to see production date stickers for the really low numbered units.

alpine 05-13-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wbradley (Post 1735153)
My FR-S was produced in April 2012. First round of deliveries here. Not sure if the VIN directly correlates with production sequence. Mine ends in 1855.

Wikipedia says first production began Feb2, 2012 for March deliveries (JDM?). Initially there were 7000 orders for Toyota and 3500 for Subaru. It makes sense they would have made 1855 for Toyota by the time mine was produced.

Would be interested to see production date stickers for the really low numbered units.

check out the first page I posted my Vin/prod. date

silvercar 05-14-2014 05:11 PM

Mine was manufactured March 2012 VIN ends in 486, picked it up June 2012.

Dadhawk 05-14-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1731985)
... It's not going to be worth anything extra unless you kept it in a garage, undriven, with 6 miles on the odometer.

Actually not true. In some cases the VIN plate is worth as much as the car. If you can find a completely junked #1 or #2 production car of just about any model and restore it to its build sheet, the value increases tremendously.

For example, in a recent episode of "Fast and Loud" they restored the #1 and #2 Firebird, in absolutely horrible condition (which were production show cars), to "Concours standards" and sold them (including the restoration fees) for over $600,000 for the pair. The did have matching engines which helped. A "regular" first year Firebird would not sell for anywhere near that amount I do not believe.

Same is true for aircraft by the way. A good portion of WWII warbirds you see are really only "original" in data plate only. They can be totally crushed and wrecked but as long as you have that data plate, its "original".

Sort of the old adage of if you have a wooden ship and replace the planks one at a time, when is it no longer the original ship?

ashtray 05-15-2014 02:35 AM

My randomly assigned state license plate ends in "86". :D

Otherwise, my vin is something around 12xx, bought 6/1/12.

Prog 05-15-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 1737176)
Actually not true. In some cases the VIN plate is worth as much as the car. If you can find a completely junked #1 or #2 production car of just about any model and restore it to its build sheet, the value increases tremendously.

For example, in a recent episode of "Fast and Loud" they restored the #1 and #2 Firebird, in absolutely horrible condition (which were production show cars), to "Concours standards" and sold them (including the restoration fees) for over $600,000 for the pair. The did have matching engines which helped. A "regular" first year Firebird would not sell for anywhere near that amount I do not believe.

Same is true for aircraft by the way. A good portion of WWII warbirds you see are really only "original" in data plate only. They can be totally crushed and wrecked but as long as you have that data plate, its "original".

Sort of the old adage of if you have a wooden ship and replace the planks one at a time, when is it no longer the original ship?

#1 and #2 (and probably many more early production) are probably owned by dealers. The first production 5th gen Camaro was auctioned off. Sincerely doubt that a regular person owns #1 or #2 of either the FR-S or BRZ.

Choco 05-15-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by alpine (Post 1731928)
I bought my car used.

edit: I am 0049 not 48

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/...09221042_n.jpg

pic for proof

Nice.

Dadhawk 05-15-2014 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1739615)
#1 and #2 (and probably many more early production) are probably owned by dealers. The first production 5th gen Camaro was auctioned off. Sincerely doubt that a regular person owns #1 or #2 of either the FR-S or BRZ.

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Originally Posted by Prog (Post 1739615)
#1 and #2 (and probably many more early production) are probably owned by dealers. The first production 5th gen Camaro was auctioned off. Sincerely doubt that a regular person owns #1 or #2 of either the FR-S or BRZ.



That is true now, but may not be eventually depending on what the company does with them. The two Firebirds I mentioned were owned by Pontiac (production show cars), but eventually ended up in private hands.
There is also some associated value in having the earliest documented one sold to the public, which may not necessarily be the #1 serial number.


I realize we are talking BRZ here, but not sure what the numbers were on the cars the First86 drove in Long Beach. They were technically production cars and there was 7 or 8 of those. Also VP of Scion really got the first one registered to an individual, unless it was technically a company car.


Of the First86 that reported here the earliest VIN was 133 by @terrypm. Mine is 274. (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3258) The go up into the 1xxx range based on when the particular color/tranny combination was manufactured in the run and what the distributor delivered to the dealer since they were sent over with the first shipment and cars were held in dock.


My point was that whether or not the twins become "classics" if you wait long enough an early serial number can have some "value" over later numbers for someone.


Heck I bet there is somebody out there somewhere who would pay a premium to own the first Pontiac Aztec. Of course, if you paid 200% more what would that be, $500?

Prog 05-16-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 1740227)
Heck I bet there is somebody out there somewhere who would pay a premium to own the first Pontiac Aztec. Of course, if you paid 200% more what would that be, $500?

:laughabove:

krayzie 05-20-2014 09:09 PM

I've just looked thru my copy of issue #461 MotorFan Magazine from Japan that is dedicated to the Subaru BRZ. On pages 60 to 62 they talk about the factory.

The pictures showed an USDM BRZ Premium 6AT in silver or white (can't really tell due to lighting) being assembled on the production line that is 00063.


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