Do I have a Scion or a Toyota or a Subaru?
 

I picked up my car last night. When we were in the finance managers office signing all the papers my daughter looks at one we were signing and it says Subaru FR-S. The manager then says well that is what is in our system for the car. He looks through all the documents he has printed and they all say Subaru. He then takes his pen and marks out every reference of Subaru and writes in Scion.
Today I go to the DMV and turn in the paperwork to receive my tag. I get home and took at the tag receipt and it states Toyota FR-S on that paperwork.

I do not know if I should be concerned or not. All the vin numbers are correct on the paperwork. Must be a glich in everyones sytem because this is the very first one to be sold in my state.

What type of dealership did you purchase the car from?

Subaru dealership = Subaru BRZ

Scion/Toyota dealership = Scion FRS

***The FRS is known as the Toyota GT86 in Japan

My dealer is a Toyota/Scion but it is part of the Asbury Group that sells over 30 brands through over 120 dealers in the US. They are all tied into the same computer network.

Yes. :bellyroll:


If it really bothers you, just go off what the title says. I just tell people its a Subaru built with Toyotas money. :iono:

I actually have a similar thing going on. Make states Toyota. I was wondering what it means. I will find out I guess.

It was made in a Subaru plant and is being shipped out by Subaru, so I guess it should be a Subaru.

It's a Subarotion... or is it a Sciotaru? At the end of the day... it's all the same company

it may take a bit for it to be labeled right.
early on all scions were Toyota under brand and scion under model with no designation of which scion you were actually driving.

when i was getting insurance on my tC it was in their system as Toyota Chrysler TC by Maserati.
they thought the Scion tC was a continuation of a late 80's abom- I mean, partnership with chrysler and maserati.

The car was engineered and built by Subaru. Toyota fronted the body work and capital to do it. So, they decided to throw their badges on it too.

Is my Car a:
A. Toyota
B. Subaru
C. Scion

Answer: D. All of the above

Daihatsu. :thumbsup:

I think some systems are confused because of the WMI in the VIN being JF1 for the FR-S, which would normally indicate Subaru.

Jeff

Just call it a Fuji :bellyroll:

This is exactly what I was thinking. It had me shaking my head when the finance guy at the Scion dealership had it listed they were selling me a new Subie.

I can see it now, I get stopped by the police for some infraction and he runs my plates and it comes up in the DMV system I am in a Toyota. All the while every emblem on the car says Scion. If he is not a car junkie, like all of us on the forum, he will not become suspicious of me and think I switched plates off some Toyota and put them on my Scion.

I have already had several people look at the car and ask me what is a Scion. Their name recognition is not very strong to the general public.:(

Toyota 86 in Japan and Australia

and Toyota GT-86 in Europe

Officially (according to DMV records) it is the Toyota Scion FR-S, just like the Toyota Scion tC, Toyota Scion xB, etc. Scion is not a standalone auto manufacturer or brand like Lexus is.

My title will state Toyota FR-S, which I thought was kinda weird since it has a Scion badge on the front....oh well:iono:

GT86 to be even more precise ;)

I received my proof of insurance wallet cards today. It lists the make as Toyota and the model as Scion FR-S.

I have never owned a partnership produced car like this before so I had no experience. I do remember a Toyota Corolla and Chevy Nova/Geo Prizm that NUMMI started making back in the 80's and more recently the Vibe and Matrix cars.
Were these Novas, Prizms and Vibes listed as Toyotas also?:iono:

No. Geo was considered a standalone nameplate using cars from Toyota, Suzuki, and Isuzu. As for the Vibe, oddly enough it was the original JDM Toyota model and the Matrix bodywork was was designed for North America... weird... but the Vibe was listed as a Pontiac.

It wasn't the original Toyota model. The Toyota Voltz was actually made at the NUMMI factory in California and shipped to Japan as a Toyota, and production of the Voltz started about 4 months after the Vibe. (May, 2002 for the Voltz versus January, 2002 for the Vibe). :)

Jeff

It is a car that was designed by both Toyota & Subaru manufactured by Subaru and sold in two variations in the U.S. :D