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EpidemicFRS 05-02-2014 04:01 AM

Thinking of getting some of these mods
 
First I'm thinking of purchasing the valenti tailights. Wondering if switching to these fix the condensation problem? Any opinions on these? Next one is getting UEL, was wondering which brand? Been reading a lot and a lot of pple seem to go back and forth. Was thinking of getting borla since it's affordable. Wondering if I would regret this?? Would there be a significant change in sound or do I have to do the exhaust as well? I really want the boxer rumble noise lol.Also some people say I won't get a code if I do the o2 fix and some say I will unless I get a tune. I have never done any type of tuning so what kind of management would I need? Thanks in advance

ilpad 05-02-2014 04:44 AM

My Valenti's do not have condensation issues.

EpidemicFRS 05-02-2014 05:39 PM

Which type do you have? I'm thinking of getting the red with white.

PoWn3d_0704 05-02-2014 06:27 PM

I have the Smoked Black Valantis, and I love them so much. I actually just got rear ended and now need new ones, but insurance is covering all of it.

stockysnail 05-02-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1710962)
First I'm thinking of purchasing the valenti tailights. Wondering if switching to these fix the condensation problem? Any opinions on these? Next one is getting UEL, was wondering which brand? Been reading a lot and a lot of pple seem to go back and forth. Was thinking of getting borla since it's affordable. Wondering if I would regret this?? Would there be a significant change in sound or do I have to do the exhaust as well? I really want the boxer rumble noise lol.Also some people say I won't get a code if I do the o2 fix and some say I will unless I get a tune. I have never done any type of tuning so what kind of management would I need? Thanks in advance

You will need a tune for your car no matter which headers you get without a cat. If you get one with a cat you could probably get away with not getting a tune but I wouldn't risk it long term. Take it easy and slow until you get the tune. I have the JDL UEL headers. They are the best performing UEL and also sound the most rumbly if that's a word. They cost a little more but their craftsmanship is the highest and worth the extra cost. I'd also recommend having the headers ceramic coated because they get super hot and won't have a heat shield like the stock ones. If you plan on going forced induction later the only current kit that works with headers is the Innovate kit. All the other ones require specific headers (other centrifugal superchargers), or their own header (turbo applications). I'd only get headers if you want the rumble and about 15-20hp more after the tune. Bob at Drift Office should be your destination for the tune. Borla has more quality issues (way more than for me to consider buying them) as does Revworks. I was the only guy I know of to get over 200hp naturally aspirated with any UEL, which was a little misleading since the air was super dense.

Basically you're choosing between eating at McDonald's or eating at a restaurant with the Borla and JDL.

If you're in the Portland area you are welcome to visit me and I'll show you my JDL UEL and car or wait until the Perrin meet next month and you'll see me there. Any more questions feel free to ask.

EpidemicFRS 05-02-2014 11:13 PM

Dam. Well the jdl UEL is almost twice as borla lol but I'm not trying to buy soemthing like borla which I would have to replace in the long run from what your telling me. Not planing on going aspirated right now or anytime in the future. Have you also done the clutch adjustment mod? I would like to see your car in person but I live in Tacoma Washington

tyler_win_photo 05-02-2014 11:18 PM

You probably won't need to do much with your exhaust after installing a header. Most people actually have the issue that their aftermarket header makes their car too loud when paired with an aftermarket catback. It's good to get a tune after installing your header as it'll make your car produce the most amount of power from its new part.

EpidemicFRS 05-02-2014 11:22 PM

Do I need some sort of management system to tune for just headers?? I have never tuned on any of my previous cars so this is especially new to me
Also would like to do the clutch adjustment soon. I would like some help on that since I have read about it and I don't want to run into breaking anything or having clutch engaged at all time.

Touge_ninja 05-03-2014 12:50 AM

For tuning go to @Drift-Office

Churnobyl 05-03-2014 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1712623)
Do I need some sort of management system to tune for just headers?? I have never tuned on any of my previous cars so this is especially new to me
Also would like to do the clutch adjustment soon. I would like some help on that since I have read about it and I don't want to run into breaking anything or having clutch engaged at all time.

Hyun I'm doing my first Oil Change tomorrow. Decided I'll do the clutch adjustment as well. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm in the Oly area all the time.

EpidemicFRS 05-03-2014 02:49 AM

Alright thanks

stockysnail 05-03-2014 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1712602)
Dam. Well the jdl UEL is almost twice as borla lol but I'm not trying to buy soemthing like borla which I would have to replace in the long run from what your telling me. Not planing on going aspirated right now or anytime in the future. Have you also done the clutch adjustment mod? I would like to see your car in person but I live in Tacoma Washington

Yes I've done the clutch adjustment mod as well. Feel free to browse my build thread (link in signature). I've done a ton of stuff.

stockysnail 05-03-2014 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1712623)
Do I need some sort of management system to tune for just headers?? I have never tuned on any of my previous cars so this is especially new to me
Also would like to do the clutch adjustment soon. I would like some help on that since I have read about it and I don't want to run into breaking anything or having clutch engaged at all time.

All you need to do is go to Drift Office near you, then will flash your ECU on your car for you and program it with optimized software. You don't need to do anything aside from that .

EpidemicFRS 05-03-2014 03:39 AM

Thank you for the tune info!!

m.box.design 05-03-2014 04:08 AM

A lot of people complain about rattling and raspy exhaust tone from Borla coupled with certain exhausts. Do more research before you buy one. You might just want to save a little longer and get a quality header.

EpidemicFRS 05-03-2014 04:53 AM

Well my mind is mostly set on the jdl. Anyone in Tacoma area have a UEL installed?? First I would like to hear one in person and see if there's a significant change because if not than I was thinking of getting exhaust set up.

Churnobyl 05-03-2014 05:59 PM

RE the Clutch Adjustment. Took me more time to find a second 14mm wrench (Two stores) than it did the make the adjustment. Makes a HUGE difference. SO much so it should be a factory recall to the dealer to have it done. Its no-brainer easy. grab a light, three wrenches and get it done.

DoomsdayJesus 05-05-2014 03:45 PM

I would wait on the valentis. I love the way mine look, but twice now on two different lights I've had 3-5 LEDs ina row go dead, telling me it's a circuitry problem and not LED burnout. Modbargains replaced the first one, I have to contact them about the recent 2nd one. But twice in under a year is not good reliability.

Ris 05-05-2014 04:39 PM

If your LEDs burnout thats a serious problem because they dont have a filament like normal bulbs. LEDs will typically just dim a bit. or completely break from damage done to them like a car wreck.

EpidemicFRS 05-05-2014 06:07 PM

Dam I really like the white valentis. I guess my first mod is gonna be the headers, tune and clutch adjustment. Still little iffy on doing that lol

Touge_ninja 05-05-2014 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1717157)
Dam I really like the white valentis. I guess my first mod is gonna be the headers, tune and clutch adjustment. Still little iffy on doing that lol

If you plan on going turbo, then skip headers. But if your going supercharger then go for it

EpidemicFRS 05-05-2014 08:40 PM

Not planning on turbo anytime in the future.

Pete156 05-05-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PoWn3d_0704 (Post 1712150)
I have the Smoked Black Valantis, and I love them so much. I actually just got rear ended and now need new ones, but insurance is covering all of it.

I would choose a different set of tails, for safety sake. Here's why.
The Valentis are not DOT or road legal in the US as far as I know. If the letters DOT are not stamped into them somewhere, they are probably not legal. Valentis do not have proper reflectors in them, a mandatory safety item required in all vehicles. The smoked black ones are even worse. I have heard of insurance companies denying claims from clients who have altered OEM safety equipment such as blackening out their tails and then getting rear ended, as you have been. You must drive a safe car on the road and not endanger those behind you. The insurance inspectors are trained to look at safety equipment, as well as damage.
Please be careful. I hope your car is mended soon.

EpidemicFRS 05-06-2014 12:15 AM

Anyone near Tacoma that has UEL installed so I can hear it in person before I purchase mine

cjsporl1996 05-06-2014 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1712602)
Dam. Well the jdl UEL is almost twice as borla lol but I'm not trying to buy soemthing like borla which I would have to replace in the long run from what your telling me. Not planing on going aspirated right now or anytime in the future. Have you also done the clutch adjustment mod? I would like to see your car in person but I live in Tacoma Washington

I have a borla for a while and never had a problem with mine. It never leaked or cracked and I have mine wrapped.

Touge_ninja 05-06-2014 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1717915)
Anyone near Tacoma that has UEL installed so I can hear it in person before I purchase mine

I have a UEL on mine and your more than free to check it out.

Pete156 05-06-2014 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Touge_ninja (Post 1717996)
I have a UEL on mine and your more than free to check it out.

Yours is a little more than a UEL

Touge_ninja 05-06-2014 01:27 AM

@Pete156 still has that rumble tho ;)

PoWn3d_0704 05-06-2014 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete156 (Post 1717504)
I would choose a different set of tails, for safety sake. Here's why.
The Valentis are not DOT or road legal in the US as far as I know. If the letters DOT are not stamped into them somewhere, they are probably not legal. Valentis do not have proper reflectors in them, a mandatory safety item required in all vehicles. The smoked black ones are even worse. I have heard of insurance companies denying claims from clients who have altered OEM safety equipment such as blackening out their tails and then getting rear ended, as you have been. You must drive a safe car on the road and not endanger those behind you. The insurance inspectors are trained to look at safety equipment, as well as damage.
Please be careful. I hope your car is mended soon.

I hear you, and as soon as the insurance stuff started, I thought about that. Luckily, it was broad daylight and I wasn't even on the brakes when I got hit.

Plus, the insurance company is fixing my car without even looking at it. Its weird.

DoomsdayJesus 05-06-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ris (Post 1716970)
If your LEDs burnout thats a serious problem because they dont have a filament like normal bulbs. LEDs will typically just dim a bit. or completely break from damage done to them like a car wreck.

Yeah, it's definitely not individual LEDs. When a string of 3 or 5 goes dead, that's probably a resistor or something.

DoomsdayJesus 05-06-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete156 (Post 1717504)
I would choose a different set of tails, for safety sake. Here's why.
The Valentis are not DOT or road legal in the US as far as I know. If the letters DOT are not stamped into them somewhere, they are probably not legal. Valentis do not have proper reflectors in them, a mandatory safety item required in all vehicles. The smoked black ones are even worse. I have heard of insurance companies denying claims from clients who have altered OEM safety equipment such as blackening out their tails and then getting rear ended, as you have been. You must drive a safe car on the road and not endanger those behind you. The insurance inspectors are trained to look at safety equipment, as well as damage.
Please be careful. I hope your car is mended soon.

Valentis do have proper reflectors in them. You're probably right about the smoked ones, but the reflection through those is still pretty good at night, I've checked. You can also substitute reflectors on your car when lacking them in your lights, I've seen people just put some standard reflectors below their bumper.

EpidemicFRS 05-07-2014 12:35 AM

Think I made my decision on what type of header. Jdl, I just didn't expect the tune to be so much. Ecutek 300 and tune 450

Churnobyl 05-07-2014 12:39 AM

You do your clutch yet?

EpidemicFRS 05-07-2014 01:29 AM

Not yet. Thinking of doing it sometime this weekend

Touge_ninja 05-07-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 1721292)
the tune include dyno time, that's actually a very good price for what you get.

honestly i would suggest you spend more time reading on the forum. Go to some meets and talk to other members who have modded the car. Go down to the next 86 night hosted by Bob @ drift_office. I learned more from listening to bob for a couple hours than i have reading the forum for a week.

there's a ton of info to wade through which is tough, but make sure you have a plan and you are happy with it before starting so you don't end up regretting something and paying twice for the route you really want.

my 2 cents :)

Also friendly advice don't get headers if you are serious about FI waste of money since if you go turbo you will have to get rid of it since they are not compatible.

EpidemicFRS 05-07-2014 03:07 PM

I wasn't talking bad about the price or anything I just didn't realize it would cost that much since it's my first time tuning. I would love to go FI but it just cost too much

Touge_ninja 05-07-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EpidemicFRS (Post 1721522)
I wasn't talking bad about the price or anything I just didn't realize it would cost that much since it's my first time tuning. I would love to go FI but it just cost too much


Start small first gradually making small changes. also how many miles do you have on your car currently?

EpidemicFRS 05-07-2014 06:18 PM

Just hit over a thousand.


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