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sixthree 04-15-2014 04:38 PM

First Oil Change [GTA]
 
Hello,

Looking to get my first oil change for my BRZ. Which subaru dealership in the GTA do you recommend getting my first oil change done?? How much does an oil change usually cost?? Closes dealership to me is markham and/or scarborough subaru but i've read some pretty bad reviews from both. Anyone have experience with downtown subaru / willowdale??

Thanks

robwbright 04-15-2014 04:45 PM

It's so easy, why don't you just do it yourself?

drewbot 04-15-2014 04:50 PM

iGarage

Myv 04-15-2014 04:51 PM

Never went to the dealer for oil change, but I'm going to assume it'd be around $100~. Assuming they used synthetic oil, then you add labor charges. Make sure you tell them you only want oil change (synthetic), and nothing else... don't want to get hit with other random inspection, changed this for you, etc. fees.

sixthree 04-15-2014 05:04 PM

I thought the first oil change must be changed by the dealership or the warranty is voided??

TM 04-15-2014 05:05 PM

If you don't mind learning and getting your hands dirty, try doing it yourself. I did my first oil change this past weekend with this car and it took me half an hour.

Switch to the Fumoto value and all future oil change will take you less than 10 minutes.

bhbnuckle 04-15-2014 05:05 PM

First oil change is free of charge on any Scion FR-S at Toyota Dealership.

You can check it out if Subaru does the same thing

Myv 04-15-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixthree (Post 1674434)
I thought the first oil change must be changed by the dealership or the warranty is voided??

I can see the case if it's a lease? Otherwise, I don't think so...

Best to contact the sales person who sold you the car to make sure or contact Subaru of Canada.

If you do your own oil changes, make sure to write down the date you changed oil and the KM done at. Just for some tracking that you did your own services at suggested/correct intervals, in case some bs that comes up with them when you go in for warranty.

D_Thissen 04-15-2014 05:37 PM

Not to thread jack, but what oil do you guys recommend?

robwbright 04-15-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixthree (Post 1674434)
I thought the first oil change must be changed by the dealership or the warranty is voided??

Not that I am aware of. Sounds like BS the dealer told you. But I'm open to correction.

If that's the case, since I already did my first oil change, then I think I'll cancel the Electric Supercharger order and go Stage 3 turbo. :party0030:

drewbot 04-15-2014 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myv (Post 1674393)
Never went to the dealer for oil change, but I'm going to assume it'd be around $100~. Assuming they used synthetic oil, then you add labor charges. Make sure you tell them you only want oil change (synthetic), and nothing else... don't want to get hit with other random inspection, changed this for you, etc. fees.

Maybe for an Audi or BMW, but my local Toyota does it for $60

robwbright 04-15-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Myv (Post 1674463)
I can see the case if it's a lease? Otherwise, I don't think so...

Honda leases allow the lessee to do their own oil changes. Can't speak for Subaru/Toyota, but I'm on a Honda lease right now.

robwbright 04-15-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 1674528)
Not to thread jack, but what oil do you guys recommend?

I just went Mobil 1 synthetic, but some others don't like it for some reason. I've used it in cars and motorcycles for a long time without issues. That said, I'm probably going to switch to NAPA (see Valvoline) synthetic because it's on sale for $3.49/quart right now.

If I were running a stage 2 or stage 3 turbo kit, I might be using Motul or some other really expensive oil, but I don't really think the issue with oil is breakdown - at least not in 5000-6000 miles. IMO, the primary issue with oil is when it gets dirty. A good synthetic could probably go 10,000+ miles as long as you kept it clean (see running it in a closed, low dirt environment).

But that's just my $.02 worth. YMMV

Myv 04-15-2014 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 1674528)
Not to thread jack, but what oil do you guys recommend?

I use Eneos 0w-20, not the Sustina though.

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Originally Posted by drewbot (Post 1674551)
Maybe for an Audi or BMW, but my local Toyota does it for $60

That's pretty good, about like $15-20 more than the synthetic oil I user per change? $15-20 for labor, sounds fair :clap:

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwbright (Post 1674558)
Honda leases allow the lessee to do their own oil changes. Can't speak for Subaru/Toyota, but I'm on a Honda lease right now.

Yeah, have a friend who also does his own on his lease, all depends on dealership though.

wparsons 04-15-2014 05:59 PM

Toyota on the Park is $61.25 taxes in for oil changes, they're generally really fast too.

For what oil/filter/washer costs, I can't be bothered to do them myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robwbright (Post 1674575)
If I were running a stage 2 or stage 3 turbo kit, I might be using Motul or some other really expensive oil, but I don't really think the issue with oil is breakdown - at least not in 5000-6000 miles. IMO, the primary issue with oil is when it gets dirty. A good synthetic could probably go 10,000+ miles as long as you kept it clean (see running it in a closed, low dirt environment).

Anyone that tracks their car regularly should also look at Motul (or equivalent) oils. I'm not too worried because I go through km's really fast (hit 60k km's last week, bought July 2012) I typically only get one or two track events in an oil change interval.

congee 04-15-2014 06:11 PM

How much does igarage charge?!?!

ToyoburuBRZ 04-15-2014 06:15 PM

Seems everyone here is giving you Toyota/Scion prices. I have been going to the dealer for all three of my oil changes. Subaru has charged me about $90 all in each time.

It is pretty simply to do yourself, but by the time you buy everything, do the change yourself, and then find a place to dispose of the old oil, to me its worth it to go to the dealer

congee 04-15-2014 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyoburuBRZ (Post 1674653)
Seems everyone here is giving you Toyota/Scion prices. I have been going to the dealer for all three of my oil changes. Subaru has charged me about $90 all in each time.

It is pretty simply to do yourself, but by the time you buy everything, do the change yourself, and then find a place to dispose of the old oil, to me its worth it to go to the dealer

Which one do you go to?!?!?

robwbright 04-15-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToyoburuBRZ (Post 1674653)
Seems everyone here is giving you Toyota/Scion prices. I have been going to the dealer for all three of my oil changes. Subaru has charged me about $90 all in each time.

It is pretty simply to do yourself, but by the time you buy everything, do the change yourself, and then find a place to dispose of the old oil, to me its worth it to go to the dealer

I dunno... $60 is $60.

Napa syn oil at $3.49 a quart and a quality filter = about $30.

Leaving $60 to justify the time and effort involved. I think I'll stick with doing it myself. ;)

I can certainly understand why someone would take it to the dealer - it is a bit of a hassle (although less so in the twins than many other cars because of the oil filter location)... but then I hear the occasional story of the dealer putting the wrong amount in.

Having worked at a dealer for 18 months, I can't say that I was that impressed with their mechanics... but obviously that's going to vary from dealer to dealer.

ToyoburuBRZ 04-15-2014 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by congee (Post 1674827)
Which one do you go to?!?!?


I go to the dealer in London where I bought it from cuz I'm in London about once a month.


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brzr 04-15-2014 07:59 PM

first oil change was free for the frs, and i had it done at the dealership.......the following changes will be done by my lovely husband

he's so good to me :wub:

Kazuya 04-15-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by congee (Post 1674644)
How much does igarage charge?!?!

I was charged 70$ for eneos 0w20(one of the best stuff) an he included a sexy blue subaru oil filter. They do it on the spot and you can freely watch, I'm a month away from going back.

sixthree 04-15-2014 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazuya (Post 1674952)
I was charged 70$ for eneos 0w20(one of the best stuff) an he included a sexy blue subaru oil filter. They do it on the spot and you can freely watch, I'm a month away from going back.

Sorry noob question but why is one oil better than the other?? I heard motul / mobil 1 is best. First time hearing about eneos.

that_guy 04-15-2014 09:48 PM

There's probably a million reasons and brand isn't the only factor.

Oil is put through a variety of tests. Those test results, depending on your needs, are the particular reasons why people will pick one oil over another. The make up of the oil (what it's made of/with) is also a big factor. Followed by cost.

Here's a good read:
http://www.amsoil.com/performancetests.aspx

Amsoil runs a ton of tests independently and to prove they are unbiased, they don't always come out on top. For me, it's these benchmarks that helped solidify the reason I run the 0W20 Signature Series in my FR-S and the OE in our other cars.

I, like many here, also run Motul in the driveline as I've had great success with it over the years in various motorsports related vehicles. Sometimes it just comes down to that. I trust Motul and Amsoil, so I run them. I don't trust Royal Purple because I've had it eat the syncros out of a transmission and burn off in an engine that didn't consume oil using any other brand but RP. Those few bad experiences mean I'll never use it for anything I own, not even my lawnmower.

DR 86 04-15-2014 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazuya (Post 1674952)
I was charged 70$ for eneos 0w20(one of the best stuff) an he included a sexy blue subaru oil filter. They do it on the spot and you can freely watch, I'm a month away from going back.

The blue subaru filter is actually made in USA and only costs half as much as the black one that's made in Japan. And it cheaper to buy filters from Subaru dealerships than Toyota ones for some reason. I use ENEOS too.

Simon99 04-15-2014 11:28 PM

Where do you guys buy your oil ? I'm in Ottawa and wtf 3.49$ a quart ?? I pay like 10$ every quarts and I need like 6

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that_guy 04-15-2014 11:32 PM

I have a wholesale account with Amsoil, so I buy direct. Anyone can set up an account though.

Amsoil OE is like $60/case with tax for 12qts.

Simon99 04-15-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by that_guy (Post 1675507)
I have a wholesale account with Amsoil, so I buy direct. Anyone can set up an account though.

Amsoil OE is like $60/case with tax for 12qts.

Could you PM me info on how to do that ?

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chenshuo 04-15-2014 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixthree (Post 1674352)
Hello,

Looking to get my first oil change for my BRZ. Which subaru dealership in the GTA do you recommend getting my first oil change done?? How much does an oil change usually cost?? Closes dealership to me is markham and/or scarborough subaru but i've read some pretty bad reviews from both. Anyone have experience with downtown subaru / willowdale??

Thanks

Don't go to dealer. Go to iGarage. I've been to Markham subaru and Willowdale. Markham Subaru is expensive if you want them to use Motul oil. Willowdale... haha, Willowdale subaru, i went there once, the guy who changed my oil can't even read my odometer properly how can i trust them to not make mistakes working on my car. Willowdale subaru also put the wrong oil filter on my car. They put the blue filter. Correct one should be black.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazuya (Post 1674952)
I was charged 70$ for eneos 0w20(one of the best stuff) an he included a sexy blue subaru oil filter. They do it on the spot and you can freely watch, I'm a month away from going back.

iGarage is pretty good, but the correct filter should be black, not blue.

Kazuya 04-16-2014 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixthree (Post 1675185)
Sorry noob question but why is one oil better than the other?? I heard motul / mobil 1 is best. First time hearing about eneos.

I would use motul 1 but because a good friend of mine rep for eneos, I got discounts. Another reason would be they are huge in japan and has a massive reputation there. 0w20 sustina is the best engine oil IMO.

Also I changed my tranny and rear gear oils with eneos, apparently I have the smoothiest frs from my AWD gang. 10/10 would recommend because I have a quiet and easy time shifting.

Simon99 04-16-2014 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazuya (Post 1675584)
I would use motul 1 but because a good friend of mine rep for eneos, I got discounts. Another reason would be they are huge in japan and has a massive reputation there. 0w20 sustina is the best engine oil IMO.

Also I changed my tranny and rear gear oils with eneos, apparently I have the smoothiest frs from my AWD gang. 10/10 would recommend because I have a quiet and easy time shifting.

Where do you get eonos in Canada ?

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drewbot 04-16-2014 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon99 (Post 1675785)
Where do you get eonos in Canada ?

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DR 86 04-16-2014 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 1675554)
Don't go to dealer. Go to iGarage. I've been to Markham subaru and Willowdale. Markham Subaru is expensive if you want them to use Motul oil. Willowdale... haha, Willowdale subaru, i went there once, the guy who changed my oil can't even read my odometer properly how can i trust them to not make mistakes working on my car. Willowdale subaru also put the wrong oil filter on my car. They put the blue filter. Correct one should be black.




iGarage is pretty good, but the correct filter should be black, not blue.

Blue is not wrong per se, just cheaper than black (made in Japan by Tokyo Roki). Just buy your own oil and change it yourself. This car is ridiculously easy to change the oil on. With my fumoto valve, it's literally a 10min job, with the majority of those minutes taken up by waiting for oil to drain and refilling.

On the subject of oils, I think Motul is overkill if you're not pushing the car hard on the track.

that_guy 04-16-2014 09:35 AM

Test data rules all here. Read some of the threads over at bobistheoilguy.com and see how some of the independent test results report back on well known oil brands.

1Cor10:23 04-16-2014 10:15 AM

Dealer oil changes for toyotas are dirt cheap. I think it's around $60-70 max for the FR-S. Use up all your freebies and then do them yourself.

Myv 04-16-2014 10:32 AM

I get my 0w20 Eneos from eBay, it's local pick-up (at UPS store), just have to buy it off eBay. Just noticed that they raised the price though... about $40/4qt now, my first batch I got it around $30/4qt @ $126.48 for 16qt..... :(

Here is the link if you are interested and nearby the pickup zones,
http://stores.ebay.ca/GoodWinWin-com...sid=1105464484

Edit :: forgot it's 3788ml -> 4qts, Just a little bit cheaper than BRZ World, comes to be about $9.88/qt

Lol wtf.... I messaged him and he ends up raising the price and says supplier raised the price and thanks for the support from beginning so he'll give me $12 discount...

DR 86 04-16-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myv (Post 1676197)
I get my 0w20 Eneos from eBay, it's local pick-up (at UPS store), just have to buy it off eBay. Just noticed that they raised the price though... about $40/4qt now, my first batch I got it around $30/4qt @ $126.48 for 16qt..... :(

Here is the link if you are interested and nearby the pickup zones,
http://stores.ebay.ca/GoodWinWin-com...sid=1105464484

Edit :: forgot it's 3788ml -> 4qts, Just a little bit cheaper than BRZ World, comes to be about $9.88/qt

Lol wtf.... I messaged him and he ends up raising the price and says supplier raised the price and thanks for the support from beginning so he'll give me $12 discount...

I have a local source cheaper than that.

Myv 04-16-2014 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR 86 (Post 1677942)
I have a local source cheaper than that.

PM me details please :confused0068:

mothespaceman 04-16-2014 11:31 PM

I was under the impression that all oil and services up to 24k were complimentary on Subaru vehicles purchased new? More so, that it is full syn for the BRZ?

I am sure that this isn't an add on that I bought, is this only for Subaru of America?

laksman91 04-17-2014 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mothespaceman (Post 1678117)
I was under the impression that all oil and services up to 24k were complimentary on Subaru vehicles purchased new? More so, that it is full syn for the BRZ?

I am sure that this isn't an add on that I bought, is this only for Subaru of America?

Only for 'murica


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