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diss7 04-12-2014 07:48 PM

JDL turbo kit thread
 
I am disappoint that there's been no updates or new threads since the original thread got moved.

And it was a legimate reason for moving it. 17 pages of technical discussion and one mention of pricing; so clearly a commercial post.

My kit is almost ready to be shipped. Much excite.

Shit Luck 04-12-2014 07:54 PM

Hoping mine is too...

evo4g63 04-12-2014 08:43 PM

My car has the kit on it eqipped with a PTE BB 5558. Working out some tuning issues as of now. I will hopefully have some update here in the next few weeks.

diss7 04-12-2014 08:53 PM

I've been discussing with my tuner the merits of a boost taper tune. I don't want/need more than 220kw/300hp. I'd rather have less power and be able to rape it harder. Plus I've gotten used to drifting it with 150whp, so double that will be awesome.

I'm thinking of running 10-12psi 3500-5500rpm, and then taper it down to 7psi after that. Should make for great midrange torque and response, which is what I'm after.

dabocx 04-12-2014 08:56 PM

I give it a week before you go back for retune asking for the full amount

xwd 04-12-2014 09:35 PM

I have a kit coming at some point with a GTX2867R. I'm not planning on running a whole lot of boost on it day to day. I'll probably stick with a 8-9PSI WG spring and run off that most of the time.

The kit is great deal IMHO versus other ones out there. I don't really care about base maps and whatnot, there is no way I would drive the car without a custom tune. The only other kit I'm interested in seeing is the Full Race kit with the Borg Warner turbos but F-R stuff is always $$$.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-12-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 1668397)
Hoping mine is too...

Manifold was finished up friday :) A few more odds and ends and the UEL's will start shipping this week.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-12-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 1668522)
I have a kit coming at some point with a GTX2867R. I'm not planning on running a whole lot of boost on it day to day. I'll probably stick with a 8-9PSI WG spring and run off that most of the time.

The kit is great deal IMHO versus other ones out there. I don't really care about base maps and whatnot, there is no way I would drive the car without a custom tune. The only other kit I'm interested in seeing is the Full Race kit with the Borg Warner turbos but F-R stuff is always $$$.


I'm not sure how user names correspond to all our orders but i know we have a gtx2867r coated black kit going to the ATL area boxed up and ready to go on monday!

xwd 04-12-2014 09:48 PM

Yes that would be mine. :D It is shipping via UPS?

I have some other parts to accumulate and decided to finish this autocross season in STX class, so it may be a few months yet before I actually get it installed.

Shit Luck 04-12-2014 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse@JDLAutodesign (Post 1668538)
Manifold was finished up friday :) A few more odds and ends and the UEL's will start shipping this week.

any info on my exhaust?

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-12-2014 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 1668558)
Yes that would be mine. :D It is shipping via UPS?

I have some other parts to accumulate and decided to finish this autocross season in STX class, so it may be a few months yet before I actually get it installed.


Yes UPS :) The black looks very good!

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-12-2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck (Post 1668586)
any info on my exhaust?


We have the overpipe and front pipe done...I was at the shop early today working on the Catback systems...hoping to have catback finalized and ready this week.

Goomba_james 04-12-2014 10:48 PM

Can't wait for mine to be finished up, visiting the shop was just a big old tease for me :bow:

diss7 04-13-2014 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 1668469)
I give it a week before you go back for retune asking for the full amount

Only limited to around 300whp peak on pump. But can still go for more mid and just taper off.

steveoexige 04-14-2014 09:44 AM

Nice idea to start another thread.

Fingers crossed my GTX3071R kit is soon to be on its way to the UK. I'm booked in for fitting in 2 weeks time just need to choose 3 inch exhaust system.
JDL guys any joy with your own one yet or are you gonna make me buy the Perrin offering ?

xwd 04-16-2014 05:53 PM

Well I have a tracking number. Expected delivery date is next Monday.

I have almost all the ancillary stuff ordered at this point except a clutch.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-16-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveoexige (Post 1670857)
Nice idea to start another thread.

Fingers crossed my GTX3071R kit is soon to be on its way to the UK. I'm booked in for fitting in 2 weeks time just need to choose 3 inch exhaust system.
JDL guys any joy with your own one yet or are you gonna make me buy the Perrin offering ?


Sent you and email :) We will have 3" offerings available by early next week.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 04-16-2014 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 1677343)
Well I have a tracking number. Expected delivery date is next Monday.

I have almost all the ancillary stuff ordered at this point except a clutch.

:thumbsup:

We don't really advertise it too much but we can get just about any clutch, fuel system parts, radiators, oil coolers, etc for great pricing! Just ask ;)

AllDayJonRay 04-16-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 1668464)
I've been discussing with my tuner the merits of a boost taper tune. I don't want/need more than 220kw/300hp. I'd rather have less power and be able to rape it harder. Plus I've gotten used to drifting it with 150whp, so double that will be awesome.

I'm thinking of running 10-12psi 3500-5500rpm, and then taper it down to 7psi after that. Should make for great midrange torque and response, which is what I'm after.

So you basically want your car to feel like it has a big displacement poor breathing v6??

diss7 04-17-2014 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 1677572)
So you basically want your car to feel like it has a big displacement poor breathing v6??

Yeah, I should run less mid range boost, so it feels like it revs better.

Sure I could run 14psi all the way to 7500. Point is I don't NEED to. I'm happy to run less and look after the motor.

To finish first, first you must finish. My car is being used for drift competitions, not the occasional highway pull. I'm yet to be convinced that anyone has shown the motor is capable of 400whp, unopened, in competition use.

If it can last a season at 300whp, I might push it a bit more. Although, I probably won't.

Sportsguy83 04-17-2014 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 1678590)
Yeah, I should run less mid range boost, so it feels like it revs better.

Sure I could run 14psi all the way to 7500. Point is I don't NEED to. I'm happy to run less and look after the motor.

To finish first, first you must finish. My car is being used for drift competitions, not the occasional highway pull. I'm yet to be convinced that anyone has shown the motor is capable of 400whp, unopened, in competition use.

If it can last a season at 300whp, I might push it a bit more. Although, I probably won't.

I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't think 400+ would survive competition.

AllDayJonRay 04-17-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 1678590)
Yeah, I should run less mid range boost, so it feels like it revs better.

Sure I could run 14psi all the way to 7500. Point is I don't NEED to. I'm happy to run less and look after the motor.

To finish first, first you must finish. My car is being used for drift competitions, not the occasional highway pull. I'm yet to be convinced that anyone has shown the motor is capable of 400whp, unopened, in competition use.

If it can last a season at 300whp, I might push it a bit more. Although, I probably won't.

You realizing that your intentions do not 'look after the motor', right? The power (tq) produced in the midrange at 14psi, which is the rev range you're going to use far more often, is just as potentially damaging as 14psi at 7500rpm. With bulletproof tuning, the peak torque area is going to be the most dangerous for your engine.

You're really not doing your motor, or yourself, any favors by tapering off boost with rpm.

AZFA20 04-17-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 1679118)
You realizing that your intentions do not 'look after the motor', right? The power (tq) produced in the midrange at 14psi, which is the rev range you're going to use far more often, is just as potentially damaging as 14psi at 7500rpm. With bulletproof tuning, the peak torque area is going to be the most dangerous for your engine.

You're really not doing your motor, or yourself, any favors by tapering off boost with rpm.

Although partly true, the rods and rod bolts experience the most stress the higher the RPMs climb so by tapering boost it decreases at least part of the equation inducing stress. It is certainly not going to hurt it to do so to prolong engine life. Ideally anything used for continuous competition would be built though.

diss7 04-17-2014 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay (Post 1679118)
You realizing that your intentions do not 'look after the motor', right? The power (tq) produced in the midrange at 14psi, which is the rev range you're going to use far more often, is just as potentially damaging as 14psi at 7500rpm. With bulletproof tuning, the peak torque area is going to be the most dangerous for your engine.

You're really not doing your motor, or yourself, any favors by tapering off boost with rpm.

I'll take the advice of my tuner over some guy on a forum every day of the week.

AllDayJonRay 04-17-2014 05:20 PM

Haha. I feel you. Good luck. :cheers:

nelsmar 04-17-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 1679563)
I'll take the advice of my tuner over some guy on a forum every day of the week.

Amen to that! lol

steveoexige 04-23-2014 01:11 PM

Anyone got their JDL kit installed and tuned yet?

nelsmar 04-23-2014 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveoexige (Post 1692296)
Anyone got their JDL kit installed and tuned yet?

Talk to me next week... =x I am packing parts up to install my motor right now. Should have the turbo in and half ass tuned next week. :)

xwd 04-23-2014 02:02 PM

I picked up my kit from UPS today but probably won't have it installed for a bit. There isn't much to it though, it's just pipes and a turbo. :) Much the same as any other kit.

SuiSid3l 04-23-2014 02:39 PM

I'm sooo on the fence about this. JDL has some great rep on this forum and I live in the Phoenix area so it makes sense to run their twin scroll kit and keep it local. At the same time I've been preppped and ready to run the Ptuning kit for about 4 months now and I'm having a difficult time deciding.

steveoexige 04-23-2014 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 1692416)
There isn't much to it though, it's just pipes and a turbo. much the same as any other kit.

Some of the other kits I've seen definitely arent built/made brilliantly.....they arent all made equal....

nguyen_er 04-23-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuiSid3l (Post 1692530)
I'm sooo on the fence about this. JDL has some great rep on this forum and I live in the Phoenix area so it makes sense to run their twin scroll kit and keep it local. At the same time I've been preppped and ready to run the Ptuning kit for about 4 months now and I'm having a difficult time deciding.

Well if you do decide to switch to jdl I'd be glad to take the ptuning kit off of your hands :)

Raven604 04-23-2014 05:16 PM

Cut beam or dont cut beam...

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xwd 04-23-2014 09:38 PM

It's really not much you are cutting, it's not like it's a big structural part of the beam. I'm expecting with my cutoff wheel for it to take about 2 minutes.

kingkai23 04-23-2014 10:54 PM

Im still waiting on my kit the wait is killing me

nelsmar 04-23-2014 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuiSid3l (Post 1692530)
I'm sooo on the fence about this. JDL has some great rep on this forum and I live in the Phoenix area so it makes sense to run their twin scroll kit and keep it local. At the same time I've been preppped and ready to run the Ptuning kit for about 4 months now and I'm having a difficult time deciding.

Unless you are on a built block with a large turbo personally I wouldn't bother with twin. Call JDL and ask how anal I was about fast spooling... Then consider that I do have a built engine and I purchase the single scroll kit indtead of my originally planned twin. I would rather put the money into other parts of the car personally. P.s. Have we met?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven604 (Post 1692990)
Cut beam or dont cut beam...

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I don't know if they ever posted but I think they now have alternative route piping. Personally I am cutting.

kbye 04-24-2014 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1693826)
I don't know if they ever posted but I think they now have alternative route piping. Personally I am cutting.

I'd be interested in that. Do you think a single scroll would still have a fast spool with the alternate routing?

504 04-24-2014 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 1693506)
It's really not much you are cutting, it's not like it's a big structural part of the beam. I'm expecting with my cutoff wheel for it to take about 2 minutes.

Actually even a small cut to the square hollow section would significantly weaken it, they use hollow sections in areas like that because of its large second moment of area for the relatively little amount of weight it has. This makes the beam very stiff and allows it to transfer energy. Removing material from the back will remove valuable material from the tension zone in the event of a collision. That being said I'd still take the cut path, short piping is more important to me personally and id try and reinforce it around the piping as best as possible

steveoexige 04-24-2014 06:18 AM

It's 2 very small cuts as you can see on JDL's classified section thread. Being a hollow beam if it really bothers you why not just weld back in some metal plates leaving enough room for the pipework.

bakerr6 04-24-2014 10:35 AM

honestly I wouldn't worry too much about cutting it. Still interested to see numbers and real world driving would work for you


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