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FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-11-2014 01:06 AM

Longevity of the the Twins?
 
Not to make anyone depressed, Any predictions of how long the twins will sell for? I'm thinking sometime in the 2030s before going through 3 updates. Anyone have any better info? Just curiosity.

continuecrushing 04-11-2014 01:13 AM

Yeah I talked to toyota corporate a few days ago, apparently they're looking into stopping production of the twins, since adding a factory turbo to the car will sabotage sales of their other vehicles, but they don't want to invest the money into development of it. They said, and I quote, "the frs platform is just too slow, and we cannot keep dumping money into such a slow platform with no potential to be something better." They said a bunch of other stuff too, but they said to keep it on the DL.


What did elude to, From what I understand, 2016 will yield an awd corolla to compete with the sti, but who knows, plans change all the time

Sirsimon 04-11-2014 01:14 AM

^Ha. Funny.

fatoni 04-11-2014 01:16 AM

despite how much of trolling is going to happen here, i cant see it lasting too long. its a pretty sharp car for an oem to put out and those things are usually only bought by a specific niche. usually after the first couple years, the niche has already purchased the new cars they plan to buy and then the sales rapidly fall off. thats not to say that the impact is insignificant though and i already have one so it doesnt matter. its the reason, imo, why the miata is so soft today. it has to appeal to a much broader market to stay relevant this late into its existence

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-11-2014 01:20 AM

The MR2 and the Supra, even though that was a different era and situation, lasted an average of 23.5 years I don't think this car will be any different

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-11-2014 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 1664856)
Yeah I talked to toyota corporate a few days ago, apparently they're looking into stopping production of the twins, since adding a factory turbo to the car will sabotage sales of their other vehicles, but they don't want to invest the money into development of it. They said, and I quote, "the frs platform is just too slow, and we cannot keep dumping money into such a slow platform with no potential to be something better." They said a bunch of other stuff too, but they said to keep it on the DL.


What did elude to, From what I understand, 2016 will yield an awd corolla to compete with the sti, but who knows, plans change all the time

:lol:

DAEMANO 04-11-2014 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN (Post 1664878)
The MR2 and the Supra, even though that was a different era and situation, lasted an average of 23.5 years I don't think this car will be any different

Not to mention the Miata's run of roughly the same duration (so far).

FRSBRZGT86FAN 04-11-2014 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAEMANO (Post 1664898)
Not to mention the Miata's run of roughly the same duration (so far).

And it's still gonna get updated

humfrz 04-11-2014 02:04 AM

Oh, until I'm ready for a Buick or my kids take my drivers license away from me ....:paddle:


humfrz

brzr 04-11-2014 10:53 AM

long, long time

i hope

Pbrown 04-11-2014 10:59 AM

Buick!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1664962)
Oh, until I'm ready for a Buick or my kids take my drivers license away from me ....:paddle:


humfrz

Maybe wifey will buy you one of these for your 90th birthday. :cheers:

Model Citizen 04-11-2014 11:05 AM

The new buicks are pretty solid

I wouldn't complain

DarkSunrise 04-11-2014 11:10 AM

Will depend on sales. Right now, judging by March 2014 sales numbers, sales are strong (for a niche car like this) and it's been in the market for about 2 years. Based on that and Tada-san's public commitment to continuing the GT86/FR-S, I would imagine Toyota is working on a mid-cycle refresh for the 2016 MY with possible updated engine options.

If that sells well, there will further development and a major re-design in 2018-2020.

BadMoon 04-11-2014 11:26 AM

I'm thinking it will sell for the next 15 years. During that time there will be approximately 57 "limited editions". They will all be more "limited" than the next. I'm guessing they will downgrade the engine at some point as well.

I talked to a senior Toyota exec that was able to share with me the first few years of updates.

2015 1.0
2016 1.01, 1.02, 1.03
2017 1.04, 1.05, 1.06, 1.07


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