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scottsampaio.com 04-09-2014 12:00 AM

Got hit (bumped)! Need part number for the black part of bumper.
 
Been searching for the name and part number for the the black part of the bumper (apron? Diffuser? Exhaust cover?). Most of what I've found are third party or the part number for the whole bumper assembly. I'll add a pic of the scratch tomorrow (can't resize the photo on this damn ipad)

Turbo95eg6 04-09-2014 12:23 AM

Unfortunately it's part of the bumper.

AdamBomb518 04-09-2014 08:05 AM

Looks like it's time for a nice carbon fiber cover piece!

scottsampaio.com 04-10-2014 03:34 PM

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Wanna know what $900 bucks of damage looks like... lol

Most likely not going to replace the whole bumper for this, shopping carbon fiber dress ups ("diffuser") at the moment. Looking like Seibon is the best so far, any other suggestions? Also if any one has links to pics of the Seibon on street that would be awesome. Most of the shots I've seen from searches are promo pics. On a side note, it's pretty ridiculous that car companies use this cheap ass contrast effect on bumpers, if any thing they should make it a separate piece if absolutely necessary. There is no way this should require a complete bumper install, it's like they are single highhandedly trying to keep these collision centers in business (that's a stretch, but it's just crazy).

sshole 04-10-2014 04:06 PM

Doesn't look like it's gashed/dented too terribly. Plastidip will fix you right up and get rid of the stupid pattern.

AdamBomb518 04-10-2014 04:28 PM

Plasti dip is definitely another option too.

The Seibon pieces in person look killer. @kanundrum has the larger diffuser (the one that wraps around the bumper) on his car.

Just depends do you wanna go carbon or dipped. I vote carbon. =P

TOTO_86 04-10-2014 05:11 PM

Use a sharpie lol No, but the Carbon Fiber would look nice! :D

subiestyle 04-10-2014 05:16 PM

Is that white paint from the other car on there, or is the plastic white underneath the black?

leicaboss 04-10-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by subiestyle (Post 1663604)
Is that white paint from the other car on there, or is the plastic white underneath the black?

It has to be from the other car, the plastic is all black.

subiestyle 04-10-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by leicaboss (Post 1663672)
It has to be from the other car, the plastic is all black.

If that's the case, then OP needs to take off the paint and show us a picture of it cleaned up.

Turbo95eg6 04-10-2014 06:04 PM

I would avoid tacky exterior CF pieces at all costs.

subiestyle 04-10-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6 (Post 1663776)
I would avoid tacky exterior CF pieces at all costs.

Vinyl wrap would work on that plastic bumper piece. It already looks like vinyl wrap.

Husker BRZ 04-10-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by subiestyle (Post 1663720)
If that's the case, then OP needs to take off the paint and show us a picture of it cleaned up.

It doesn't get much better when "cleaned up". Since the plastic is textured it's almost impossible to remove a scratch or anything from it. I had a friend back into my front bumper and it left this:
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It was from his license plate holder. I cleaned it and even used multiple plastic shine products on it to try and remove it but this is how it looks even after all that.

Kotu100 04-10-2014 06:55 PM

Would vinyl even work for that? I've been thinking about using vinyl to cover the front bumper license plate holes.

In for a solution.

CreinCrein 04-11-2014 12:26 AM

I've learned to live with minor scuffs on my car. It's not worth it fix/repaint every time it gets damage. That money is better spent on mods!

IF you're really OCD about it, I'd get the carbon diffuser from APR or Seibon. Does anyone know if its a complete replacement or an overlay?

subiestyle 04-11-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Husker BRZ (Post 1663899)

It was from his license plate holder. I cleaned it and even used multiple plastic shine products on it to try and remove it but this is how it looks even after all that.

Have you tried Carpro Dlux? It supposedly puts a glasslike film over the plastic trim.

Turbo95eg6 04-11-2014 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CreinCrein (Post 1664743)
I've learned to live with minor scuffs on my car. It's not worth it fix/repaint every time it gets damage. That money is better spent on mods!

IF you're really OCD about it, I'd get the carbon diffuser from APR or Seibon. Does anyone know if its a complete replacement or an overlay?

Agreed. Honestly OP, this part on the bumper is very vulnerable to scratching, and things will appear over time. Mine is only 6 months old, and I have a few scratches that I don't know how it got there. It's probably because I use the trunk everyday.

FRSHunter 04-11-2014 05:47 AM

Go with the JDM TRD rear bumper lip. It basically covers up all that pattern nonsense. Might require a larger muffler or quad tips to really set it off though.

RFB 04-11-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsampaio.com (Post 1663280)
Wanna know what $900 bucks of damage looks like... lol

Most likely not going to replace the whole bumper for this, shopping carbon fiber dress ups ("diffuser") at the moment. Looking like Seibon is the best so far, any other suggestions? Also if any one has links to pics of the Seibon on street that would be awesome. Most of the shots I've seen from searches are promo pics. On a side note, it's pretty ridiculous that car companies use this cheap ass contrast effect on bumpers, if any thing they should make it a separate piece if absolutely necessary. There is no way this should require a complete bumper install, it's like they are single highhandedly trying to keep these collision centers in business (that's a stretch, but it's just crazy).

I had the same problem.

That plastic is the soapy kind that paint, bumper stickers, and vinyl wrap will not adhere to.

My solution was carbon fiber diffuser cover, and even that wouldnt stick with silicone, until I used 2 full large tubes of hi-temp gasket silicone,clamps and heat for 24 hrs.

:cheers:

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Husker BRZ 04-11-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by subiestyle (Post 1664798)
Have you tried Carpro Dlux? It supposedly puts a glasslike film over the plastic trim.

I have not. I tried Adams VRT, Chemical Guys Silk Shine, and Chemical Guys G6 Hyper Coat High Gloss protectant becuse those are what I had on hand at the time. The Carpro Dlux looks like a good product but I think its the same type of product at least it's shown to do the exact same thing the above 3 do. Definitely a product I will keep in mind since I already have 3 similar products I think I will hold off for now. Thanks for the info!

scottsampaio.com 04-11-2014 09:01 PM

Thank you for all the responses guys! It is in fact a fairly deep scratch about the width of a pencil eraser, which of course screwed up the texturing. I haven't cleaned it up because I still getting an estimate from the offenders(lol) insurance. However, I've already had it appraised on my on my own (originally trying to do the guy a favor by avoiding insurance). The appraiser took two seconds and said, "oh, yeah we'd have to replace the whole bumper, it'll be like a grand". The official estimate from them was $870.

Honestly I'm a little ocd on this one only because I didn't cause the damage, just urks me. But in reality like you guys said that part is VERY susceptible to damage. To be honest I'm more afraid of them replacing my bumper then the same thing happening again in a parking lot or something, I mean the guy was literally going 0.000001 miles per hour when he bumped me.

The front runner so far in the OEM style Seibon because I have the TRD exhaust. I checked out @kanundrum quad style one and it looks pretty sick, the oem style one should be a little more low key since it only covers the so called diffuser area. Vinyl and plasti dip are also good ideas but I'm thinking that damn texture would need to be sanded off. Once I clean it up I suppose I'll have a better idea if I can deal with it or not... that money could definitely be spent on better stuff.

Thanks again fellas!

scottsampaio.com 04-11-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 1665347)
I had the same problem.

That plastic is the soapy kind that paint, bumper stickers, and vinyl wrap will not adhere to.

My solution was carbon fiber diffuser cover, and even that wouldnt stick with silicone, until I used 2 full large tubes of hi-temp gasket silicone,clamps and heat for 24 hrs.

:cheers:

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif

CERBERUS

That scares me a bit! I'm pretty sure the Seibon one is attached with 3M tape. I read on one blog they decided to put in a few rivets as well. I'm going to email Seibon and see if they can send the install notes to get an idea.

Vracer111 04-11-2014 11:33 PM

Here's one way to permanently remove scratches from that section...

http://vracer111.smugmug.com/Cars/St...Rearless-1.jpg

RFB 04-12-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsampaio.com (Post 1666824)
That scares me a bit! I'm pretty sure the Seibon one is attached with 3M tape. I read on one blog they decided to put in a few rivets as well. I'm going to email Seibon and see if they can send the install notes to get an idea.

Seibon recommends hi temp red (iron ixode I believe) silicone. I found that the hi temp gasket silicone had more adhesion.

If you use lots, rivets aren't required.

I track my FRS alot, hot weather, cold weather and my Seibon cover is solid.

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif

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scottsampaio.com 04-15-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 1667230)
Seibon recommends hi temp red (iron ixode I believe) silicone. I found that the hi temp gasket silicone had more adhesion.

If you use lots, rivets aren't required.

I track my FRS alot, hot weather, cold weather and my Seibon cover is solid.

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif

Cerberus

Hey RFB,
Do you happen to have any pics posted of the diffuser? I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on it. I got a quote for $520 installed which is a great deal but at the same time still a lot of money that could go to more performance related gear... The check I got from his insurance is less than the original quote at $665. Ugh decisions decisions

RFB 04-16-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsampaio.com (Post 1674323)
Hey RFB,
Do you happen to have any pics posted of the diffuser? I'm trying to decide if I should pull the trigger on it. I got a quote for $520 installed which is a great deal but at the same time still a lot of money that could go to more performance related gear... The check I got from his insurance is less than the original quote at $665. Ugh decisions decisions

Sorry, no pics. But it looks gorgeous compared to the soapy plastic part. The Seibon looks shiny, deep 3-d, with black gold and silver hues depending on the light.

It was a no brainer for me as the scratch in the plastic devalued the car. The toyota replacement part was cheaper, but as the plastic and bumper were one piece it required painting to match the car. With the insurance company recommended body shop bill the total ($ 1700 !) was double than the Seibon and install. The insurance adjuster jumped at the chance to save the insurance co. money.

:cheers:

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif

CERBERUS

scottsampaio.com 04-16-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB (Post 1676261)
Sorry, no pics. But it looks gorgeous compared to the soapy plastic part. The Seibon looks shiny, deep 3-d, with black gold and silver hues depending on the light.

It was a no brainer for me as the scratch in the plastic devalued the car. The toyota replacement part was cheaper, but as the plastic and bumper were one piece it required painting to match the car. With the insurance company recommended body shop bill the total ($ 1700 !) was double than the Seibon and install. The insurance adjuster jumped at the chance to save the insurance co. money.

:cheers:



http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps3eb3bee8.gif

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Ok no worries, thank you for all your info. That quote is crazy! Mine came out pretty low at less than $700 direct from the insurance and less then $900 from a third party. But they said there was little chance there was damage behind the bumper because it was such a slow bump. I've cleaned it up for now to see if I can live with it, being a daily driver it's bound to get a little beat up :cry: If not I'll probably go with the Seibon after a few other mods... Thanks again :cheers:

kalamitykode 04-25-2014 01:05 AM

My front bumper (the lighter black, textured part on the BRZ bumper) has two holes in it that were drilled by the dealership. Pisses me off, and I can't think of a good way to fix it other than to cover it up lol.


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