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glamcem 04-07-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 1654649)
My rear camber is -2.5 on both sides, dropped on ST coilovers, with NO aftermarket rear arms/toe links etc).

I am dropped about 1.25"-1.5" front and rear

Is there a specific reason why you preferred different drop from front than rear?

How do you like the ST coilovers btw? Any track experience with them?

continuecrushing 04-07-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by glamcem (Post 1654948)
Is there a specific reason why you preferred different drop from front than rear?

How do you like the ST coilovers btw? Any track experience with them?

awe, my bad...I meant my drop was between 1.25 and 1.5, all around...I can't remember what it is exactly, I think I did 1.25, but it settled close to 1.5

I worded that in a confusing way haha.

I've had the coilovers on for about 6k miles now, no track yet(been a busy year haha) but for daily/aggressive canyon its been great.

glamcem 04-07-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shutter (Post 1655136)
awe, my bad...I meant my drop was between 1.25 and 1.5, all around...I can't remember what it is exactly, I think I did 1.25, but it settled close to 1.5

I worded that in a confusing way haha.

I've had the coilovers on for about 6k miles now, no track yet(been a busy year haha) but for daily/aggressive canyon its been great.


No worries :thumbsup: what kind of spoiler is that btw?

continuecrushing 04-07-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by glamcem (Post 1655276)
No worries :thumbsup: what kind of spoiler is that btw?

Oh, and I'm also running 0 toe, if you were wondering. And my front camber is currently at -1.9L and -1.4R(max negative camber on the slotted holes on the ST coilovers) But I want to get camber bolts or top hats with adjustable camber plates in the near future, as I'd like to get my camber up front around -2.5 or -3

The spoiler is a cf duckbill from modbargains.

puma 04-07-2014 06:44 PM

I know it depends on setup, track, tires and driver but i want to know how YOU would align it.

I will be running on street tires but will sometimes run on slicks, slicks will prefer more camber. As far as setup, my alignment will dictacte my setup if i need -3.5 in front and can't get over 2,8, i will buy parts to make it happen, simple as that.

We will do a lot of test and tune on the alignment, just wanted to know what to start with, i am pretty setup on -3,5 front and 2 or 3 in the rear, not sure. For caster, we will get as much as we can and toe we'll have to try depending on how the car drives but we will start at 0 everywhere.

Thongpocket 04-10-2014 01:41 PM

I'm on Fortune coils with 6k and 7k springs with whiteline RLCA's. I went with -2F and -3R based on someones recommendations on here and my car feels very sticky in the turns. I havent got a chance to do a track day or autoX with it yet but I want to so I can see how much understeer is left. My car is also quite low so I should probably raise it up a bit.

Thongpocket 04-10-2014 01:42 PM

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I might be a little too low. Attachment 73966

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glamcem 04-11-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thongpocket (Post 1662910)
I'm on Fortune coils with 6k and 7k springs with whiteline RLCA's. I went with -2F and -3R based on someones recommendations on here and my car feels very sticky in the turns. I havent got a chance to do a track day or autoX with it yet but I want to so I can see how much understeer is left. My car is also quite low so I should probably raise it up a bit.

how much did you drop your car? you have an interesting camber setup, assuming you have the default spring setup (Fortune springs) any particular reason why you chose more negative camber in the rear tires? are you on OEM sways?

Thongpocket 04-11-2014 01:42 PM

Eibach sways and everything white line makes. I chose this setup based of a buddy of mine who races his and so far I really like the sharp turn in and controllability. My car is probably too low but after my next race I may raise it up and change. I like a bit of oversteer.

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dp1 06-15-2014 12:45 AM

dream track alignment?
 
Quick update...my -3.4f/-2.7r worked very well on track, and I was set up a couple of cm lower than Ohlins spec. Had manageable oversteer at the limit on track, may also be due to pretty stiff Ohlins settings -4 clicks front and -5 clicks rear, next time will go with -6f/-7r.

Now have a new car with the same Ohlins but at their recommended -20mm drop front and -15mm drop rear and -3f/-2.5r camber with 1/16 toe in rear. You may want to zero out the toe, I just want to try this out. Will update this post with impressions after track days in early July. Car seems to drive a little better on the street with this new setup.

CSG Mike 06-15-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dp1 (Post 1796851)
Quick update...my -3.4f/-2.7r worked very well on track, and I was set up a couple of cm lower than Ohlins spec. Had manageable oversteer at the limit on track, may also be due to pretty stiff Ohlins settings -4 clicks front and -5 clicks rear, next time will go with -6f/-7r.

Now have a new car with the same Ohlins but at their recommended -20mm drop front and -15mm drop rear and -3f/-2.5r camber with 1/16 toe in rear. You may want to zero out the toe, I just want to try this out. Will update this post with impressions after track days in early July. Car seems to drive a little better on the street with this new setup.

I suspect initial turn-in response is also more crisp at the recommended height.

Try changing the damping settings mid-session, so that you can compare the results back to back.

Do you have your LSD in yet?

dp1 06-15-2014 08:32 PM

dream track alignment?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1797799)
I suspect initial turn-in response is also more crisp at the recommended height.

Try changing the damping settings mid-session, so that you can compare the results back to back.

Do you have your LSD in yet?


I am at 700mi now with the new car so still not pushing it hard. Will try out different damper settings at the WGI track in early July...it's a fast and unforgiving track so I hope to get things right the first time around.

Car behaves very well on the street at Ohlins spec height and new camber. I think that I will lose some crispness in handling with spec height and less camber, but don't mind having it adjusted again until it's just right. I'll have camber adjusted twice per year for summer and winter anyway. JR SC behaves differently on the manual due to trannies and I like it even a little bit more on a manual. If only this shifter were a little less notchy...heavier Raceseng shift knob helps and hope mtech springs and reinforcements below the deck will help.

OSGiken is going in on 7/16...have to figure out more track days to test it out.

Thanks


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