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himbo 04-02-2014 08:29 AM

Lightweight REAR rotor options
 
I know there is the P&L lightweight rear brake upgrade as well as various lighter weight BBK kits. However, the P&L kit is hardly streetable while the BBK's are overkill IMO. I think the best compromise is installing lighter rotors for the rear. Problem is, I can't find anyone who seems to make them. I think knocking off a 2-3lbs per disc can have very noticeable effects to handling, braking, and accelerating.

Anyone wanna chime in? Some simple stock-sized, slotted rotors could do the trick. Maybe something with an aluminum hat?

Thanks in advance!

JerryMichaels7 04-02-2014 09:48 AM

What makes the P&l not streetable?? Deletes e-brake?

himbo 04-02-2014 10:10 AM

OTE=JerryMichaels7;1643395]What makes the P&l not streetable?? Deletes e-brake?[/QUOTE]

Yeah for me streetable means ebrake. I know different people have different definitions of streetable, but that's where I draw the line.

I just think that a slightly lighter disc would be more than adequate and cost effective.

ZionsWrath 04-02-2014 10:16 AM

My guess is something like that would be so niche, the cost would be halfway to a rear BBK.

himbo 04-02-2014 10:29 AM

How so? There are lots of slotted or drilled rotors out there. Lots with aluminum hats. I'm just wondering if anyone makes them in the stock size. I'm not looking for ultra lightweight rotors. Just a slight and rather basic upgrade. Coupled with some SS lines and decent pads, a slightly lighter disc would make a noticeable difference in my opinion.

wparsons 04-02-2014 10:55 AM

I don't think you'll ever find a two piece rotor with an aluminum hat that retains the stock e-brake functionality...

himbo 04-02-2014 12:23 PM

Why is that? The drum is still there right? Isn't this just a matter of replacing discs?

mines13 04-02-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1643507)
I don't think you'll ever find a two piece rotor with an aluminum hat that retains the stock e-brake functionality...


I wouldn't rule it out. They certainly exist for other applications, I've installed the Wilwood and the Stoptech setups on 350Z's in a past life. Here is an example for the Stoptech rear rotor for the 350Z. It integrates the drum inside the aluminum hat. They do state that you should absolutely not use the e-brake for anything other then parking however. Perhaps Stoptech builds one for our car since they offer it for other vehicles with a similar e-brake configuration?

http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech...15_emRC3-L.jpg

wparsons 04-02-2014 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himbo (Post 1643695)
Why is that? The drum is still there right? Isn't this just a matter of replacing discs?

The drum is part of the stock disc...

CSG David 04-02-2014 01:59 PM

Would be interesting, but haven't seen anybody actually benefit with it. On paper and in theory, it should benefit performance, but the reality is it requires a trade-off that I'm not willing to take. Oh look, super fast acceleration from 0 to 20mph.

Black Tire 04-02-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mines13 (Post 1643831)
I wouldn't rule it out. They certainly exist for other applications, I've installed the Wilwood and the Stoptech setups on 350Z's in a past life. Here is an example for the Stoptech rear rotor for the 350Z. It integrates the drum inside the aluminum hat. They do state that you should absolutely not use the e-brake for anything other then parking however. Perhaps Stoptech builds one for our car since they offer it for other vehicles with a similar e-brake configuration?

http://photos.motoiq.com/MotoIQ/Tech...15_emRC3-L.jpg

I am intrigued by this question as well. I haven't seen any great solutions. The one in the above picture with the aluminum hat/drum may actually work for an emergency stop, ONCE. After that you will probably need a new rotor and possible some new brake shoes and/or other parts if the aluminum has melted. Good luck trying to drive home if the shoes fuse to the drums.

CSG David 04-02-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Tire (Post 1643994)
I am intrigued by this question as well. I haven't seen any great solutions. The one in the above picture with the aluminum hat/drum may actually work for an emergency stop, ONCE. After that you will probably need a new rotor and possible some new brake shoes and/or other parts if the aluminum has melted. Good luck trying to drive home if the shoes fuse to the drums.

The easiest example that comes to mind is Robispec. He used 4lb rear rotors. He would snap them literally almost every session. Then he used 7lb rear rotors...it would last 1 to 2 full days. Keep in mind, his car is like 400lbs lighter than all of our cars...

himbo 04-02-2014 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1643865)
The drum is part of the stock disc...

Aha! That explains it. Haven't actually seen the pics of the rear disc. I always thought the drum was seperated from the disc. Damn. That sucks :(

JerryMichaels7 04-02-2014 04:03 PM

I agree with you OP. Just wasn't for sure if they did delete e brakes or not.


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