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drift86 03-26-2014 10:57 PM

4.8 final drive
 
Autofactory and a few other brands have a 4.875 final drive. I think its a Toyota part and is about 19% reduction over the stock 4.1 ratio.

Has anyone fitted one? How is it?

I'm planning to keep my car NA and I think this will really make the car come alive. I think subjectively it will make the car feel much quicker. Objectively, it may not mean a faster lap time, but I don't really care about that..

86drift 03-26-2014 11:29 PM

I've got 5.1 and love it.

radroach 03-26-2014 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 86drift (Post 1628898)
I've got 5.1 and love it.


Got any videos for this? The only racing footage I've seen on youtube is from autofactory japan with their 5.1 racer.

drift86 03-27-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 86drift (Post 1628898)
I've got 5.1 and love it.

Awesome.

Was it the autofactory one? Who fitted it for you? Any noise?

fooddude 03-27-2014 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 86drift (Post 1628898)
I've got 5.1 and love it.

I am very interested too in a review...DD, track, performance, highway, anything :)

fooddude 03-27-2014 12:21 AM

Weir Performance has am inexpensive 4.88 too fyi ...they also have a 5.29 for the brave ;)

anajri 03-27-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 86drift (Post 1628898)
I've got 5.1 and love it.

5.1 wow I have the 4.55 and also love it exept on the highway revs are too high for cruising

whats youre crusing?

mid_life_crisis 03-27-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fooddude (Post 1628982)
Weir Performance has am inexpensive 4.88 too fyi ...they also have a 5.29 for the brave ;)

4.88 would do amazing things for an automatic.

ML 03-27-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fooddude (Post 1628982)
Weir Performance has am inexpensive 4.88 too fyi ...they also have a 5.29 for the brave ;)

The supra kit? goes all the way up to 5.71. IDK for daily 4.88 seems like a bit much, but it would keep me from speeding! and be good for AX

BlueDubbinTDI 03-27-2014 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis (Post 1630212)
4.88 would do amazing things for an automatic.

Can someone elaborate on this please?

FrsDuke 03-27-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1630477)
Can someone elaborate on this please?

The auto has taller gears in the tranny than the manual while both have a 4.1 final drive. So a more aggressive final drive would bring the auto more in line with the manual.

BlueDubbinTDI 03-27-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FrsDuke (Post 1630503)
The auto has taller gears in the tranny than the manual while both have a 4.1 final drive. So a more aggressive final drive would bring the auto more in line with the manual.

How costly is something like this start to finish having a shop do everything?

mid_life_crisis 03-27-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis (Post 1630212)
4.88 would do amazing things for an automatic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1630477)
Can someone elaborate on this please?

The automatic is pretty fun to begin with, but the internal gearing (in the transmission) puts it at a huge disadvantage to a manual because both have the same 4.10 rear gears from the factory. There's a reason the manual is a full second quicker and it isn't just the weight. A change to a ratio like 4.88 would give it much more favorable overall gearing on line with the manual. Ever notice that automatics in muscle cars have higher (numerically smaller) final drive ratios than manuals? That's because of the torque converter's multiplication effect. You quite literally don't want too much of a good thing. I'm making a quick guesstimate that 4.88 would be enough to wake the automatic up nicely without going overboard. Someone with easy access to gear ratios of the transmissions (they are on the forum somewhere) could be more precise.

Edit: Damnit, while I was typing that mess, the short answer got posted.

Sirsimon 03-27-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI (Post 1630506)
How costly is something like this start to finish having a shop do everything?

Lots of discussion here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums and here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ad.php?t=27647

If I recall correctly from the above (and at least one other) thread labor was close to $1k. Obviously cheaper if you can do the installation yourself, but it is something you have to get right the first time and takes a lot of experience.

Parts can be fairly inexpensive if from a donor or pricey if you buy from Cusco, MFactory, etc. The second thread includes part numbers and more detailed pricing for at least a partial DIY project.


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