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dp1 03-26-2014 12:14 AM

Ohlins Road & Track - settings (clicks) for street/track/ax
 
Please reply with your favorite settings, for example:
Street 10f/11r
Track 5f/5r

First fully tighten the rebound adjuster knob by turning it clockwise, then count clicks while turning it counterclockwise (a.k.a., clicks from "full hard").

Ohlins recommends (front and rear):
Track 0-7 clicks
Winding road 5-10 clicks
Street 10-20 clicks

Here is what I found on the forum:

@Jhon19lopez: "Rides amazing and easy to adjust. I have it 7 clicks out from stiffest setting and my head isn't about to break off like cheaper coils. I could tell a difference from my kw v3."

@h4nh: "The ride after was amazing! I have it 7 clicks from firmest and it does not make my head explode. It handles a lot better than the kw v3's."

@mav1178: "Street: 10-12 clicks yields the best results for Los Angeles streets. This may be a combination of my tires (Toyo T1 Sport) with the coilovers, but a firmer street setting has better rebound control and ride quality.
Track: I've experimented with anywhere from 2-6 clicks on the coilovers, and found (so far) that bumpier tracks do best with around 5 clicks. I have yet to run any super-smooth tracks, but will dial in a stiffer setting on those."

@Dezoris: "These are single adjustable dampers with clicker settings that go from 1 (Stiffest) to 20 (Softest). The clickers are located on the bottom of the struts and access is easy from under the car. The rear adjuster knobs are at the top of the shock making adjustment easy from the trunk. We settled on 15 clicks front and 16 rear as the felt softer and superior to OEM."

This was a quick search to pick a starting point, will post my favorite settings later.

Dezoris 03-26-2014 02:12 AM

One of the reasons why I like this setup is, for street use and autox. Which in my area requires much softer settings. But the range is extreme enough for a super smooth track surface as well.

Cold Weather Pavement More Bumpy
Street: 17F 18R

Warm Weather Pavement Relaxed
Street: 15F 16R
AutoX: 12F 13R (Still usually choppy pavement)
Track: 6F 7R

OICU812 03-26-2014 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1626600)
One of the reasons why I like this setup is, for street use and autox. Which in my area requires much softer settings. But the range is extreme enough for a super smooth track surface as well.

Cold Weather Pavement More Bumpy
Street: 17F 18R

Warm Weather Pavement Relaxed
Street: 15F 16R
AutoX: 12F 13R (Still usually choppy pavement)
Track: 6F 7R

Are those values "open amount" counting down from 20? Ie: 17= 3/20 (17 open) from full closed/stiffest setting? Also I note on your settings always 1 less stuff on back.. Even though spring rates equal on these does it feel more natural for back to sink more?

dp1 03-26-2014 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1626644)
Are those values "open amount" counting down from 20? Ie: 17= 3/20 (17 open) from full closed/stiffest setting? Also I note on your settings always 1 less stuff on back.. Even though spring rates equal on these does it feel more natural for back to sink more?


Counting is based on my initial suggestion and also observed by stiffer settings (less clicks from full hard) for track than street :)

mav1178 03-26-2014 03:29 AM

Adjustment is based off clicks from full stiff, most suspension on the market is adjusted this way.

Having said that, I think a lot of the individual preferences will be dictated by tire and alignment settings.

-alex

OICU812 03-26-2014 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dp1 (Post 1626682)
Counting is based on my initial suggestion and also observed by stiffer settings (less clicks from full hard) for track than street :)

Yup figured just like to be sure. What coilovers were you on previously?

dp1 03-26-2014 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1626741)
Yup figured just like to be sure. What coilovers were you on previously?


Stock

Dezoris 03-26-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1626644)
Are those values "open amount" counting down from 20? Ie: 17= 3/20 (17 open) from full closed/stiffest setting? Also I note on your settings always 1 less stuff on back.. Even though spring rates equal on these does it feel more natural for back to sink more?

With even rates due to rear multilink the rear still will effectively be stiffer. Did not do the math on it though.
Front has more weight to contend with typically front settings go slightly firmer than rear to deal with that. Again it feels right, but this is a street car with some track time, not a race car. Dialing in the clicker settings is completely variable based on too many variables but in this case these settings seem to be a good generic basis for good performance.

OICU812 03-26-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1627145)
With even rates due to rear multilink the rear still will effectively be stiffer. Did not do the math on it though.
Front has more weight to contend with typically front settings go slightly firmer than rear to deal with that. Again it feels right, but this is a street car with some track time, not a race car. Dialing in the clicker settings is completely variable based on too many variables but in this case these settings seem to be a good generic basis for good performance.

Ok I appreciate that explination of your experience, just seen the trend and was curious and how you mention makes perfect sense. Thanks for your time and good idea to the Original Poster btw. Having such threads is very valuable for (starting points).

Racecomp Engineering 03-26-2014 12:05 PM

One quick thing, don't expect 10 clicks on the front to "equal" 10 clicks in the rear. The front and rear aren't valved exactly the same....yes you'll likely be close to the same number of clicks as that's how the ranges are designed but a 10 in front isn't necessarily a 10 in back. Heh. Ain't that the truth.

- Andy

ja1217 03-27-2014 01:13 PM

Full soft on street all around
4f/4r on track/autocross

I left ride height as it came from Ohlins (-20mm f/-15mm r).

Camber: -2.7f/-1.8r
Toe: 0f/I think I have a very tiny amount in the rear, can't remember

I also got the car corner balanced, so the ride height might be slightly different that Ohlins default, but I haven't bothered measuring.

I haven't played around with adjusting settings on the track much. I've just stuck with 4 as it seems to behave pretty much how I want it to. Very neutral, with perhaps a very slight lean towards oversteer. It also doesn't seem so stiff that I can't attack curbs without having the car be bounced around.

rome_brz 04-03-2014 07:19 PM

Word on the street is that Ohlins sent a memo around discontinuing the R&T for the 86/BRZ?

cdrazic93 04-03-2014 07:49 PM

Although that would suck, I can see that; as not many people want to put 3k coilovers on a 25k car...

rome_brz 04-03-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1647383)
Although that would suck, I can see that; as not many people want to put 3k coilovers on a 25k car...

I was about to! In my case, $4.15k on a $40k car (Australia :P)

Decided to go with a different coilover as I don't know the reason they've done this.

KKaWing 04-03-2014 08:02 PM

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cdrazic93 04-03-2014 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rome_brz (Post 1647403)
I was about to! In my case, $4.15k on a $40k car (Australia :P)

Decided to go with a different coilover as I don't know the reason they've done this.

I'm actually saving up for a set of those JRZ RS's :)

rome_brz 04-03-2014 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1647466)
I'm actually saving up for a set of those JRZ RS's :)

Damn that's some expensive hardware!

dp1 04-03-2014 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rome_brz (Post 1647318)
Word on the street is that Ohlins sent a memo around discontinuing the R&T for the 86/BRZ?


Do they usually keep stock of spare parts for servicing after they are discontinued? Love them on the street, much better than stock, will try them on track later this month.

rome_brz 04-03-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dp1 (Post 1647724)
Do they usually keep stock of spare parts for servicing after they are discontinued? Love them on the street, much better than stock, will try them on track later this month.

Ohlins is one of the most reputable suspension brands in the world, and they would still make "built to order" coilovers of any spec you'd like if you asked them to, so I don't think you'll have an issue if you needed any servicing/replacements done on your Ohlins :) They come with 2 year warranty don't they? Maybe contact them and see what your options would be for rebuilding/replacing certain parts if you had issues after the 2 year mark!

cdrazic93 04-03-2014 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rome_brz (Post 1647504)
Damn that's some expensive hardware!

I don't really like to look at it like that, I look at it as, I need suspension, what do I want? These qualifications fit the JRZ RS. Now I save up for them.

Dezoris 04-04-2014 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rome_brz (Post 1647318)
Word on the street is that Ohlins sent a memo around discontinuing the R&T for the 86/BRZ?

That's the opposite of what I was told by Onhlins USA. They are trying to grow their street market and the 86 platform has sold more than they expected.

OICU812 04-04-2014 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rome_brz (Post 1647318)
Word on the street is that Ohlins sent a memo around discontinuing the R&T for the 86/BRZ?


Um really, well they been selling a fair bit lately, I see more then a few vendors going through them as I been keeping eye wanting some. So... where does this info come from a cars and coffee meet? Sorry to go off topic but I have never heard this so called MEMO till now...

rome_brz 04-06-2014 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1648044)
That's the opposite of what I was told by Onhlins USA. They are trying to grow their street market and the 86 platform has sold more than they expected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1648126)
Um really, well they been selling a fair bit lately, I see more then a few vendors going through them as I been keeping eye wanting some. So... where does this info come from a cars and coffee meet? Sorry to go off topic but I have never heard this so called MEMO till now...

I was told by the shop in Australia I usually order all my parts from, so no not at a cars and coffee meet. He might have meant they aren't providing them in Australia anymore, but I had emailed the Australia distributor listed on their website over the weekend to confirm what the go was.

EDIT: Haven't received a response yet but will update this when I do.

lazyluka 04-06-2014 11:01 PM

Just bought some from a NZ distributor a few weeks ago. Installed in the car over the weekend.

Wheel alignment on Thursday. :)

Will provide feedback on settings when I have driven on them for a while.

rome_brz 04-07-2014 02:17 AM

Ok so the Australian distributor listed on the website says they are still being sold, so not sure why my other shop has told me they aren't :/

Darryljr11 04-12-2014 10:45 PM

Getting my Ohlins put on Monday!

whiteradam 04-12-2014 11:35 PM

Street: 8f/9r
AX: depends on the surface.

But I also have 450Lb springs.

tahdizzle 04-13-2014 12:07 AM

Wish I had Ohlins

Darryljr11 04-18-2014 10:56 AM

13F 13R street for now
D.C. roads are shit! lol may have to go full soft

dp1 06-15-2014 12:32 AM

Ohlins Road & Track - settings (clicks) for street/track/ax
 
After some more testing on a new car, -10f/-11r is a little bit on the stiff side but not stiff and still comfortable on the street, with very sharp handling. Sweet spot for me is at -13f/-14r for daily driving - increases comfort and still preserves most of the sharp handling on the street. Tried -16f/-17r and while the comfort on the street is even better over good pavement, car gets a little floaty over bigger bumps or wavy roads. This set is amazing IMHO, well worth the money.

dp1 06-18-2014 05:23 PM

Interestingly enough, I tried -18 clicks all around on the street and it's the most comfortable setting yet, with even less floating feel than at -16. Still good handling, just a little less sharp...but it's so easy to firm up for spirited driving while enjoying the comfort for daily commute and alike

Sleepless 08-10-2014 08:34 PM

Street: 20f/20r
Track: 5f/4r

Lowered 20mm f/r with corner balance
Camber -2.5f/-2.0r
Toe 0f/small to-in r (don't recall exact #)

rx3 10-22-2015 12:11 PM

Has anyone run them on racing tires and considered a higher spring rate because of it?

Efferalgan 05-27-2016 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 1627176)
One quick thing, don't expect 10 clicks on the front to "equal" 10 clicks in the rear. The front and rear aren't valved exactly the same....yes you'll likely be close to the same number of clicks as that's how the ranges are designed but a 10 in front isn't necessarily a 10 in back. Heh. Ain't that the truth.

- Andy

I just found out that I have 30-31 clicks on both rear dampers :confused0068: WTF??

Dihudaxia 05-28-2016 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Efferalgan (Post 2664338)
I just found out that I have 30-31 clicks on both rear dampers :confused0068: WTF??

According to Ohlins, its normal, beyond the first 20 clicks, each other click has little or no impact to the ride.

Usually i dun go that soft. My setting is 14/14

ajc209 06-03-2016 10:13 AM

I have 400lb/in springs at the back, but I run mine at about 12-15 click on british B roads. Set them too soft and the car is all over the place on bumpy back roads.

On the track I vary from 5-8 clicks

This is on AD08R 235/40/18 tyres.

Efferalgan 06-03-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dihudaxia (Post 2664769)
According to Ohlins, its normal, beyond the first 20 clicks, each other click has little or no impact to the ride.

Usually i dun go that soft. My setting is 14/14

Thanks! Thank was hugely helpful for the peace of my mind :) Because fronts have about 25 clicks.

corry29 06-21-2016 01:33 AM

Hello everyone, for those who have the Ohlins R/T

I just got these installed on my FR-S, the coils were set at its lowest front and rear, and after settle, it seems like it's a 1 finger gap in the front and a 2.5 or 3 finger gap on the rear?

Is that the same for you guys?

mav1178 06-21-2016 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corry29 (Post 2685891)
it seems like it's a 1 finger gap in the front and a 2.5 or 3 finger gap on the rear?

From my install thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48679

Quote:

- The rear suspension allows you to lower the car about 1" at most. IMO if you want to lower the car more, or get a bit more adjustment height-wise, get Ohlins with the Stance rear lower control arm.
- The front suspension allows you about 1.5-1.75" of lowering at most.

boomslang 06-27-2016 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corry29 (Post 2685891)
Hello everyone, for those who have the Ohlins R/T

I just got these installed on my FR-S, the coils were set at its lowest front and rear, and after settle, it seems like it's a 1 finger gap in the front and a 2.5 or 3 finger gap on the rear?

Is that the same for you guys?


My front gap is about 0.75" from the tire at full lowering.

My rear gap is about 1.125" from the tire at full lowering.

My plan is to change out the rear top hats for Raceseng ones and no rubber top piece...that should gain me 0.3" more lowering to even it all out...at least I hope.


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