Will u remove the spare tire?
 

The FT86 is all about weight. Any reduction will improve performance. I noticed somewhere that it has a full scale spare wheel/tire in the trunk.

Does anyone consider keeping it home and ride lighter? :burnrubber:


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No, because I'm sure the day I do I will get myself a flat. I'd rather everything be a fraction slower than be stranded somewhere with a flat.

I don't think it's a full sized spare anymore, but I'm sure someone will correct me on this. As for removing the spare tire - for everyday driving I'll be keeping it in, but for track days I'll pull it out to save that extra 15lbs.

EDIT: Plus what he ^ said :thumbsup:

I can confirm you it is full size!

I'll pull it out at the track/autox. Other than that it stays in.

Around town, its out. On a road trip, Im taking it with me. I have free towing anyway if something were to go really wrong.

Hopefully someone will pull out the spare and tools and weigh them. I'm guessing 30-35 pounds.

I have a feeling that unless I'm on a road trip...it will be out :burnrubber:

Confirm? May I ask where do you get your information from?

Car&Driver calls the spare wheel compact.
http://buyersguide.caranddriver.com/scion/fr-s/specs

Edmunds calls the spare wheel "Temporary spare tire".
http://www.edmunds.com/scion/fr-s/20...res-specs.html

Last but not least the owner's manual calls the spare wheel compact ("The compact spare tire is identified by the label “TEMPORARY USE ONLY” on the tire sidewall") and goes to great lengths explaining the precautions to be taken when driving with the compact wheel on the car.

was this car about weight or balance? at 26xx lbs and 55/45 weight distribution i dont know which one they really focused on and which one we should focus on

Maybe he was talking about Nur edi?

How much does the spare weigh anyway? If you're really that concerned about weight maybe you should go on a diet....

Not all of us have 15lbs to lose healthily.:iono:

(the spare in my car is staying though. Unless I'm autocrossing or something)

Remove it? Not me! I love this placement! My question is -- do USDM cars come equipped as seen below??

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1336818804

I do! But... less food? More exercise? Damn...

Nope, I think that's a Nur ver

Yes that photo shows a Nur ver (haha it rhymes). I really really like that setup. As people take delivery we need to build a post that shows these differences (and whether they are based on Geographic market or option package).

anyone able to get a pic of this in their car?

I don't get why everyone wants to keep the spare (I've seen threads like this on other boards to, not just here). The rigorous testing done on tires in order to get DOT approval is ridiculous. For the amount of effort it would take to get flat, you have just as much chance of putting a hole in the rad or the oil pan. If you work at a construction site and there's nails lying around or something similar sure keep it. For the rest of us, I'm surprised the spare tire hasn't become optional like an ashtray has.

I took a look at the spare at one of the First Drive events and it was a skinny spare on a steel wheel. It looked to be full diameter, but that was it. I'd guess total weight at 30-35lbs, but this is purely a guess. I know Pekingduck had some pictures of the spare in his thread.

I'll take it out. I'll use AAA if anything goes down.

Skinny spare is exactly what I saw while scoping out one of the first 86ers car's before he got to pick it up. I definitely wouldn't consider it full size.

Leave the spare tire in. Sure, you'll drop some weight, but you'd be taking out some weight from the REAR of the car when it's already slightly front-heavy (though not by much) and also RWD. If you want to strip the car of some weight, the last thing you want to do is to do so in a manner that makes the weight distribution more front-biased, assuming that you are doing so to make your car quicker when the steering wheel is being turned when driving. Honestly it's not as if taking out the spare tire will suddenly remove traction from the rear, but there isn't much benefit just by doing that.

That doesn't really matter, as regardless of whatever testing or approvals a tire manufacturer has to go through, the tire is not indestructible. You don't need to be driving through a construction site to pick up a nail.

Cool, but sometimes, you may be in a hurry and not necessarily have the time to wait for AAA. I've used them before (not for flat tire changes though), and sometimes they show up in 10 minutes, sometimes in more than an hour.

I'm never in a hurry. :bellyroll:

My wife and I have used AAA a handful of times in the past couple of years and it's always been about 30min and never for a flat tire.

Like someone else said, if I'm going on longer trips I'll take it; but to work and back I'd just leave it out.

I've driven without a spare for years, and I do carry a can of Fix-A-Flat. A blowout, and well, I'll have to get towed.

Lastly, it's about weight as much as it's about a bit more space to carry some things.

I'm planning on getting a lighter battery and removing a lot of the airbox and sound tube with a CAI, whenever they come out, to hopefully balance things out. That's if I can even tell the difference.

For future reference, perhaps you could weigh the stuff you remove and start a database here on FT86Club.

Yeah, I was kinda hoping people would weigh the stuff they remove just to see.

Ill be doing my best to document the weight of the items I remove/install in my build thread.

Will only remove for autox events.

I've read on Tire Rack that the Fix-A-Flat stuff can damage the tire pressure sensor. Has anyone heard differently?

Yeah I've heard that too. But, if all new cars are being mandated with TPMS then Fix-A-Flat might have to make a different formula. :)

I'm never changing a flat tire. That's what tow trucks are for. The spare will find a new home in my garage. :happy0180:

I've had enough punctures & flat tires to make going without anything a bad idea in my mind. I don't really keep track, but an average of one every other year? It's happened at least half a dozen times.

That said, for daily commute & driving I don't bother carrying a spare in my cars. But I do keep a 12v air compressor and tire plug/patch kit. The past few years my daily driver has been pretty old (1979), so I got AAA as well.

Long trips, the spare goes back in - but not the donut, I get a full size spare.

meh, if I don't remove the spare, where would I put my amps?

I have too much bad luck with flat tires. The spare stays in until I'm at the track.

Yup here you go


http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s...506_225958.jpg

Thanks Peking. Now I'm wondering what is underneath the Nur ver spare, since it appears to be mounted higher.

Maybe the two setups could be combined for double-spare action. Maybe the other trunk items (emergency kit, etc) are also different on other-market models.

I like details like this.

I'm wondering if they would fit under the seats. I'm hoping so, at least. I'd like to keep the trunk as free as possible for other things.

I've done that before, with a different car, but the amps I have now, there's just no way. One is about 18 inchs long plus the connections. If you can fit them it really is a better place.

Leave it in. Makes no difference on the streets and little to no difference on a track.

+1!

one of the reason why buying a hyundai is discouraging, bc it doesnt come with a spare. You are So out of luck, if u have a flat