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bdanisi 03-21-2014 12:34 PM

getting rejected from first
 
Hey all this might be something I missed while searching, so apologies in advance, but its starting to become a recurring theme where I can feel that im not all the way into first and if gas it and let the clutch out I dont go anywhere and i hear a whirring noise from it clearly not being into gear all the way. So knowing what that feels like I will take it out of first if I feel it isnt all the way in but sometimes even after i put it back into neutral it will not let me go all the way into first and I have to start in second gear. The only tranny mods i have are pentosin mtf 2 fluid and mtech shift springs. Is this a thing that happens? This is my first mt, but it really wasnt ever doing this when the car was still a baby, im at about 26k miles now btw. This happens maybe once or twice a week now and if it gets worse ill be a bit nervous. Hopefully this is completely user error and im just an idiot. let me know what is happening!?

G-Man 03-21-2014 12:46 PM

I have had this happen on multiple cars. sometimes the gears are lined up that its a pain to try to get it in correctly. try to cycle through some other gears and try to go back into 1st.

White64Goat 03-21-2014 12:46 PM

Did this occur BEFORE the spring install? That would be my first consideration......not sure how many other people have installed the springs yet, but I had them on my short list of things to do.

bdanisi 03-21-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 1615896)
Did this occur BEFORE the spring install? That would be my first consideration......not sure how many other people have installed the springs yet, but I had them on my short list of things to do.

absolutely it did, and from my very limited understanding the springs would only make it "springier" so it should be easier to get into first.

CBR600RR 03-21-2014 12:54 PM

This should solve your issue:

If you are stopped and it feels like it isnt into 1st all the way, keep pressure on pushing it into first, then slowly and gently let the clutch out until you feel the clutch start to grab (without throttle input). it should drop right into 1st gear without any issue.

Edit: same goes for reverse gear, if it feels like it won't go in.

this isn't an issue with the transmission, it is very common on all MT cars

bdanisi 03-21-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBR600RR (Post 1615918)
This should solve your issue:

If you are stopped and it feels like it isnt into 1st all the way, keep pressure on pushing it into first, then slowly and gently let the clutch out until you feel the clutch start to grab (without throttle input). it should drop right into 1st gear without any issue.

Edit: same goes for reverse gear, if it feels like it won't go in.

this isn't an issue with the transmission, it is very common on all MT cars

thanks, i figured and always try not to panic. haha the only reason that i even posted this is because the last time it happened a girl was in my car and she was like why did u start in second? hahaha i tried not to panic and thought of some bullshit excuse but i still felt like an idiot haha

dirtymax 03-21-2014 01:05 PM

like the post above slowly let the clutch out and it will slide into gear or what has worked for me on other MT if it happens all the time is drop it into 2nd then it should go right into first.

1Cor10:23 03-21-2014 01:09 PM

What speed are you trying to slip into 1st? From stop or downshift? I find that I have resistance getting into first anything above 10Kph

CBR600RR 03-21-2014 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Cor10:23 (Post 1615958)
What speed are you trying to slip into 1st? From stop or downshift? I find that I have resistance getting into first anything above 10Kph


really you should never down shift into first unless you are at less than 10kmh (8mph) and coming to a stop. first is not designed as a gear to down shift into

bdanisi 03-21-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBR600RR (Post 1615968)
really you should never down shift into first unless you are at less than 10kmh (8mph) and coming to a stop. first is not designed as a gear to down shift into

this is the general rule of thumb i was taught. i dont put it into first unless its at or under 5 or 6 mph

1Cor10:23 03-21-2014 01:18 PM

^yes, exactly, just trying to make sure that wasn't the problem. Synchros no likey.

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CBR600RR 03-21-2014 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdanisi (Post 1615970)
this is the general rule of thumb i was taught. i dont put it into first unless its at or under 5 or 6 mph

ya exactly:thumbup:

bdanisi 03-26-2014 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtymax (Post 1615948)
like the post above slowly let the clutch out and it will slide into gear or what has worked for me on other MT if it happens all the time is drop it into 2nd then it should go right into first.

I just would like to say if u ever get rejected from first put it into second and then try again into first it literally works perfectly. Thanks for the pro tip


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TylerLieberman 03-27-2014 12:43 PM

You got rejected from 1st?

Was it the first date?


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