Paint Protection, Detailing and Clear Bra for New Whiteout Monogram
 

Taking deliver of a Whiteout MT Monogram shortly and would like to know everyone s' thoughts on using Nanaimo Scion British Columbia to complete the paint application and bra. Anyone from Vancouver Island get theirs done there? Should I just let them do it for convenience or wait and get it done elsewhere? If Im unhappy I can always go back and complain... is it even worth the bra? Let me know especially Canadians and 86ers from the surrounding areas.
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Get a clear bra for the bumper and a full hood (not the OEM half hood). It wish I knew about this when I had my Si -almost every drive resulted in more paint chips & burnt clearcoat from acid rain/bird droppings/bug guts.

Why do people put a clear bra on the car? To keep it looking fresh when they go to sell it? Because it's going to look like shit the entire time if you put any bra on it. Much worse than small chips here and there.

How do you figure? I have clear bra on my full bumper, full hood, and full fenders and you would never know it's there. So again, why is it going to look like shit???

Getting any kind of detailing services done at the dealer is a bad idea.

If you get a clear bra for the hood, do the full instead of the half like recommended. I have the half, and while it blends in nicely sometimes, there are other times (like when dirty) where the lines are just really obvious and it's ugly.

I recommend xpel-ultimate for your clear bra..


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I would buy the clear bra if I had the extra money LOL.

Get the Entire Front bumper, Hood, mirrors, Fender, and quarter panels done.

Forget the clear bra. That "technology" is outdated.

Go get a proper opticoat.

This is a joke, right?

Opticoat won't protect you from rock chips.

Can a mod move this to the right section?

Seriously hope this is a joke. If not, then you have no clue what you're talking about.

My Impreza had a dealer clear bra on(not my choice) and after 10 years you still couldn't really tell it was there unless you looked for the line since it was only half coverage. The clear bra itself was extremely effective in making that portion of the hood look excellent, but the half coverage meant rock chips damaged the roof, A-pillars and annoyingly even just beyond the clear bra meaning the hood shows some chips too. When my FRS arrives its getting the full front treatment to ensure no rock chips damage the front especially since I do more highway driving than previously.

Is this overkill???

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No this is what should be done if you really want to protect it.

Suggestions for recommended Vancouver Island detailers?

Actually PPF (Paint Protection Film) is a polymer sheet that's applied onto pristine paint. It's a sacrificial barrier that will protect your paint from harsh conditions.

So wouldn't this step at least be done by the dealership, as that is when the paint is actually pristine right from the manufacturer...

The paint has defects in it from the factory..and a shit ton more if you let the dealer wash or detail it.

So what are the steps you guys recommend to take from factory...?

Besides telling them not to wax and detail, would this include not allowing them to unwrap the packaging as well? (I've seen pics on here)

Dealer handled my Celica back in 03 and I don't know exactly what they did except take my money! (I assume scotch guard is a rip off and unnecessary?)
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1. Tell dealer to keep all wrapping on
2. Bring to detailer to unwrap, minor paint correct and detail
3. Clear bra install
4. Back to detailer to Opti-coat (I Opti-coated then clear bra then Opti-coat again)
5. Smile at car...frown at bank account

One problem, I have to drive the car from dealership to where I live...How do I do this with all the wrapping still on?

Unless Nanaimo Toyota/Scion has a highly rated detailer they use???

Lol it's not wrapped like a gift. It's just got protective film covering certain areas. You can drive it with the protective film on. No don't use the dealers detailer. Do some research on here and find a good quality local detailer. I think you're over thinking this.

OP, chill out on the OCD and just enjoy the car....

Scotchguard is just a spray on coating that prevents liquids from premeating your seating surfaces so you can wipe them up instead of getting embedded stains. It doesn't last forever, is yet another chemical you're inhaling and is so cheap and easy to do you'd be crazy to pay a dealership to do it for you.

Agreed.

CarPro Fabric and Leather Coating is another great product, costs a bit more but works better in my opinion.

AMEN!

Is this the self-healing?

Dealer told me they will not let a car go from the lot without their detailing job. They told me they use Diamond Detailing on the island. I looked them up and they seem pretty meticulous and reputable. So they are going the PDI and the undercoat at the dealer. Then off to Diamond detailing and they are adding Opti-coat and wax on the paint and leather treating the interior.

I was kinda surprised at this, so they must get some sort of kick back. Anyways, I was really surprised when the dealer said that the Paint Protection Film causing fading!!! :bs:

If this is so, then why do so many people get it. I am thinking of going to SHC for this, but who knows. My Celica never got PPF and the paint is still immaculate.

Thoughts???

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Opti-Coat and wax? Sounds like a waste, wax doesn't properly adhere to Opti-coat and the wax's lifespan is severely limited which is why most people skip it. If they require it I hope they dont charge you for it because that'd be ridiculous.

Also PPF fading paint is an outright lie.

The detailer may be reputable but I've never heard of them on any detailing forum or their paint corrections but they may still do reputable work. I would try and find out if they are a licensed dealer for Opti-Coat as Optimum is quite stringent on who they license.

I'm new to the detailing scene, so I believe they said just Opti-coat.

Why would they lie about this? (This was the Business Manager I was talking to...could it be that he just doesn't know...?)

I will look into this, thanks!

It could be just ignorance. Cheap PPF film can and will yellow over time, but speeding up paint fade sounds like a rumor that got spread around. Any quality Xpel film or higher end 3M film you will have nothing to worry about for at least 5-7 years.

After this time do you just have it removed and re-applied?

Thanks!

If you properly take care of it the lifespan of a film (depending on it's quality) will last much longer. But over time the film will get damaged especially if you hit something real good, I had an Xpel film actually get cut from some road debris. But yes after the time period it will require removal and re-application. but it's much better than the alternative which is numerous rock chips and cost of a new bumper.

I absolutely think paint film is great but it is an expensive venture initially.

Thanks so much! Does 3M heal as well? I don't think they offer Xpel at my shop.

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I don't believe it is, but it is quite a bit cheaper. The installer is going to be the largest factor in how well it holds up and how far you are willing to go. Some installers will simply cut it at the end of the panel and others will actually tuck it underneath preventing unsightly lines.

But if you take care of the film, not allowing bugs and grime to sit on there for extended periods of time specifically in the heat I think 3M Venture Shield is a good alternative. There is also Suntek but I have no experience with their clear bra's, only tint.

Dude I don't know what else to tell you, other than your dealer is pushing you around. Not trying to be rude, but you sound like a pushover and very gullible.

It's your car, you call the shots. You've attempted to ask questions here, you've been given advice. Stick to it and just tell them how it's GOING TO BE.

Let me guess, they were able to sell you on the electronic rust module as well?

No, I got a discount on everything for 1,200
Is my paint officially screwed by the dealership now :(

Depending on the severity of the paint determines how much it's worth, and assuming the shop does good work. If the car requires a full two step paint correction plus opti-coat that usually runs in the 400-600 range, close enough for exchange rates to CAD. I don't think theres much of a surcharge for Opti-Coat.

As for the clear bra, have they explained what is actually getting covered? For 3M clear bra it depends on if it's Scotchgard or Venture Shield as Venture Shield is more expensive.

I doubt it's screwed, but I think you should go back and get some questions answered like what type of film is it, warranty on it, ask the shop for their work, etc.... The only qualm I have with the shop is they talk about specializing in paint correction yet all they show is pictures like this

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Whereas many detailers will show progress and 50/50's such as this

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You can see the difference in clarity and depth from the right to the left.

Dealer is going to opticoat, then I'm off to SHC to apply PPF. Should I be getting opticoat on top of the PPF as well?

It will probably be an extra charge since you're getting the clear bra and Opti-coat done at different places. You should get Opti-coat done on top of the film, otherwise it's useless.