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Drift-Office 03-18-2014 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS (Post 1607101)
So your issues was with a MAP sensor and not the kit? K just making sure. :cheers:

For your clarification : (and not to start a pissing match.)

I think what everyone is missing here is that the design of the kit, not the SC unit is what's severely lacking. Everything else seems to be a bit of an afterthought - sensory location or lack thereof, turbulent channels creating issues with otherwise acceptable MAP sensor used on every OTHER FI platform except this one, inherent heat issues, restrictive intercooler...

I mean who uses a limited OEM MAP sensor that reads up to 5.3 PSI when running >10PSI and only to make 20 WHP / TQ more? The added boost seems like it's there to push more air in to compensate for both the restriction the IC makes and some of the pressure drop from the IC core?

Get E85. Yeah, quick solution and you'll make a bunch more power. Get the cooling properties of E85 to 'fix' the heat issues. Pay more money for pumps, injectors, tuning and maintenance.

By the time you add the price of the kit with the intercooler, you'd be better off with JR or KW SC kits that would still out perform the Innovate (sans the bottom end where the twin screw setup shines. )

That's just a poorly priced, poorly rushed out product IMHO.

Cheers!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

evan 03-18-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office (Post 1607662)
For your clarification : (and not to start a pissing match.)


No worries Bob. I always point my piss at the toilet. :)
Nonetheless, it saddens me that you feel so strongly against what I consider to be a great kit for this platform. I still respect you though.

NickFRS 03-19-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office (Post 1607662)
For your clarification : (and not to start a pissing match.)

I think what everyone is missing here is that the design of the kit, not the SC unit is what's severely lacking. Everything else seems to be a bit of an afterthought - sensory location or lack thereof, turbulent channels creating issues with otherwise acceptable MAP sensor used on every OTHER FI platform except this one, inherent heat issues, restrictive intercooler...

I mean who uses a limited OEM MAP sensor that reads up to 5.3 PSI when running >10PSI and only to make 20 WHP / TQ more? The added boost seems like it's there to push more air in to compensate for both the restriction the IC makes and some of the pressure drop from the IC core?

Get E85. Yeah, quick solution and you'll make a bunch more power. Get the cooling properties of E85 to 'fix' the heat issues. Pay more money for pumps, injectors, tuning and maintenance.

By the time you add the price of the kit with the intercooler, you'd be better off with JR or KW SC kits that would still out perform the Innovate (sans the bottom end where the twin screw setup shines. )

That's just a poorly priced, poorly rushed out product IMHO.

Cheers!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

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I <3 u bob :cheers:

robwbright 03-20-2014 01:04 AM

I'm curious as to the gas mileage you guys are getting on the Innovate...?

NickFRS 03-20-2014 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by robwbright (Post 1612629)
I'm curious as to the gas mileage you guys are getting on the Innovate...?

I just avg'd 29.8 (going off the digital thingie) going from troutdale-seaside avging 65mph but varied from 25-100. Went 270 miles on 3/4 tank.

stockysnail 03-20-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by robwbright (Post 1612629)
I'm curious as to the gas mileage you guys are getting on the Innovate...?

I haven't paid too much attention but I think maybe 1 mpg or so less.

evan 03-20-2014 01:09 PM

If I drive like a sissy, I can squeeze 30+ mpg out of her

Ris 03-20-2014 01:37 PM

Do you guys like the innovate kit? I've been wanting to get one but I haven't been able to convince the wife. Its a hard sell. :P

evan 03-20-2014 03:28 PM

Josh's Innovate intercooled 70mm pulleyed 92oct results
 
Yes, it's a great kit with a lot of future potential. You can test drive my car (it's modified significantly beyond the base kit though) if you ever make it down to a meet in Portland.

NickFRS 03-20-2014 11:51 PM

I like it my wife hates it :)

stockysnail 03-21-2014 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS (Post 1614913)
I like it my wife hates it :)

Why does she hate it?

NickFRS 03-21-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 1615173)
Why does she hate it?

Since just for the base kit we have spent about 5 grand with all the issues.

stockysnail 03-21-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NickFRS (Post 1616883)
Since just for the base kit we have spent about 5 grand with all the issues.

I've spend too much on mine too and I bought it used! ;(

NickFRS 03-21-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stockysnail (Post 1616965)
I've spend too much on mine too and I bought it used! ;(

Kicking myself in the ass for selling the Perrin 3in intake now... Since I need a 3in intake to run E85 and 70mm pulley on non intercooled...... dammit.... LOL.


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