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s0sl0w 03-14-2014 12:02 PM

Premature rusting?
 
Check your 86's guys found a smudge of rust last oil change so I decided I'd hit with some rust converter this oil change 5k later... Here's what I found (car has 10K and is less than a year in my possession, bought new).

http://i.imgur.com/OFLFQft.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/k4wHb7v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NohWDsF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hZoejWr.jpg

The leading edge there is getting blasted and then rusted and if you examine carefully you can see rust along the edges. Just surface so far but surface rust leads to more rust and if you plan on keeping this car as long as I do (40+ years) then this is something that needs to be kept on top of.

This spring I'll be yanking the shielding and hitting everything with a wire wheel, converter, prime and paint, possibly do the leading edges that are getting material blasted.

Gords_zenith 03-14-2014 01:06 PM

No offence, but if you plan on keeping your car that long, than why are you driving it in the winter?

m.wood0213 03-14-2014 01:14 PM

Does the FRS come with rust protection? I know my BRZ does. Take it to your dealer and see.

s0sl0w 03-14-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gords_zenith (Post 1599358)
No offence, but if you plan on keeping your car that long, than why are you driving it in the winter?

Because at the moment its my daily driver and I enjoy driving it.

Rayme 03-15-2014 07:54 PM

You're a bit optimist to drive your car in the winter and expecting no rust at all. You did spot the rust so that's great it's better than to let it go. Sub-frame and suspension components usually don't have much rust protection compared to the body panels (who should take 6-7 years of winter beating before rusting).

This is my 2nd winter with the FRS in the very salty roads, when it's all dried up I'll do up a thread with pictures of under my car underbelly, I don't think there's much worst condition than the roads we have here. I know my exhaust is pretty corroded so far! :mad0260:

BRZfan 03-15-2014 09:26 PM

SOSLOW SAYS:
"The leading edge there is getting blasted and then rusted and if you examine carefully you can see rust along the edges. Just surface so far but surface rust leads to more rust and if you plan on keeping this car as long as I do (40+ years) then this is something that needs to be kept on top of."

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Four (4) years or "(40+ years)"?

cjsporl1996 03-15-2014 09:34 PM

I have a few spots on my car similar to that. I simply wired brushed the surface rust, primed it, and spray painted it black. Looks oem and it takes care of potential future rust. Newer cars are less prone to rust but unfortantly if you drive your car in the winter or live near the ocean. Your car will rust no matter what you do.

Drift&Drag 03-15-2014 10:07 PM

  1. Wire brush the rusted area
  2. Single coat of Flat Black Rustoleum spray paint
  3. 2 Coats of Rustoleum UnderCoating
  4. Finished
  5. Routine rust-checkups
Additional coats are up to your preference.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2lkd9g5.jpg


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utekineir 03-15-2014 10:11 PM

Op is keeping car till he's 56?

ZionsWrath 03-15-2014 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir (Post 1602494)
Op is keeping car till he's 56?

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...-there-015.jpg

DaJo 03-15-2014 10:52 PM

Lol rust is inevitable! Unless you plan on garaging it...

radroach 03-16-2014 01:34 AM

I checked around the front of my car today, a bit of a mold is growing on the rubberized paint near the fog light housing. I've only been doing simple hand washes but might have to bust out some heavier duty cleaning supplies and clean in every nook and cranny.

s0sl0w 03-16-2014 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZfan (Post 1602420)
SOSLOW SAYS:
"The leading edge there is getting blasted and then rusted and if you examine carefully you can see rust along the edges. Just surface so far but surface rust leads to more rust and if you plan on keeping this car as long as I do (40+ years) then this is something that needs to be kept on top of."

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Four (4) years or "(40+ years)"?

Why would it be anything other than what I wrote? 40+ years. If I wear only keeping it 4 years I doubt I'd care, it'd be someone elses issue and I'd just do "normal" maintenance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir (Post 1602494)
Op is keeping car till he's 56?

Thanks for playing dipshit. In 12 years of driving, almost 9 years of personal car ownership and 9 cars later I know when I get a hold of car that I truly can enjoy indefinitely. This car is one of those cars for me and because I do intend on being it's only owner until it becomes my children or grandchildrens I want to make sure it's not a rusted to bits heap in 25 years and that starts by being obsessive now.

The other car that has a special place in my heart is my 1999 2.5Rs, a car that is going to have FAR too much money spent on it one day if I at all have the means.



This spring I'm pulling the shields, brushing/cleaning all the rust afflicted areas, hitting with converter and then coating to prevent further rust. While I'm not surprised by the rust I was hoping it wouldn't become an issue so quickly.

BRZfan 03-17-2014 10:08 AM

If you want to keep a car for forty years in a specific operating condition, to minimize oxidation, and it is driven in wintry and salty road conditions year after year, you must be able and willing to do the following;

1. Have an air conditioned garage and a dehumidifier in continuous operation depending upon the season.

2. Do not let salt stay with the car more than one day. That is on ALL surfaces, exterior paint, the underside and even in the interior. if you cannot do this and to MINIMIZE oxidation, DO NOT garage the vehicle but rather keep it outside. It has been shown (by paint manufacturers) that long term oxidation occurs more readily when the vehicle is kept in the garage after salt has accumulated on the surfaces for that day. It is best to keep it OUTSIDE where the oxidation process is slowed because the temperature is normally lower.

3. Inspect the car on a regular basis for any oxidation and correct the problem as soon as possible.


4. Be sure to maintain continuous and proper maintenance and replace any defective or warn/overused components before they affect other parts of the vehicle.

5. Be alert to the availability of replacement parts.

6. Realize that in forty years it will be the year 2054 and many changes will have taken place during that time - personal life, children and grandchildren interests/preferences, the economy, new technology, new government regulations and advanced road /driving conditions to name a few. I might suggest to keep us updated but in 15 years or less this forum and/or current posters will have disappeared from the scene...

OR
Make it a 'Garage Queen'.

Good Luck!


Quote:

Originally Posted by s0sl0w (Post 1599218)
Check your 86's guys found a smudge of rust last oil change.....



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