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dssence 03-04-2014 03:33 AM

What are these 2 hoses for ?
 
Hi guys I managed to tape the air duct where the air gets inside the cabin with aluminium tape. So the cold air is finally cold and not hot anymore.
But below I've been there are 2 hoses coming into the cabin. These 2 hoses are extremelly hot and don't know why. Cause the heater is not on. I think one of the hoses is for the heater. Do any of these 2 hoses work with the air intake for the cabin ? Or could be heating up the cabin air as well ?

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Travisty75 03-04-2014 07:37 AM

They're coolant lines. They run in to the heater core for the HVAC system. It's perfectly normal for them to be there and hot, and it shouldn't be raising your in-cabin temperatures significantly, if at all.

speedrye 03-04-2014 07:39 AM

Those are probably hoses to the heater core. The engine's coolant runs through there constantly, so I'd assume some heat would be getting into the cabin.

dssence 03-04-2014 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by speedrye (Post 1572915)
Those are probably hoses to the heater core. The engine's coolant runs through there constantly, so I'd assume some heat would be getting into the cabin.


That's right. But why are they constantly so hot. I did wrap the air duct with aluminium tape like this guy did , and I started touching what was hot coming inside the cabin. So I wrapped these 2 hoses with aluminiumtape as well.. is it useful or not ?


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SloS14 03-04-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dssence (Post 1572949)
That's right. But why are they constantly so hot.

uhh....because heater core?

Synack 03-04-2014 11:29 AM

#BecauseHeaterCore

dssence 03-04-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 1573139)
#BecauseHeaterCore

hehh a new hashtag

mav1178 03-04-2014 12:52 PM

Why is it hot? Because the heater core uses engine coolant (that is hot) to heat the cabin. Even if your heater core is turned off, the hoses will still be hot due to engine coolant heat soaking.

-alex

speedrye 03-04-2014 01:17 PM

I was under the impression that the engine constantly fed hot water through the heater core, whether the heater was on or off. When the heater in the car is turned on, the blower then blows air through the heater core, thus heating the air for your consumption.

dssence 03-04-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1573323)
Why is it hot? Because the heater core uses engine coolant (that is hot) to heat the cabin. Even if your heater core is turned off, the hoses will still be hot due to engine coolant heat soaking.

-alex

Thanks alex, so what if I cover these two hoses with aluminium tape will it help on anything? or it's useless. For heat disipation to avoid innecesary heating insdie the cabin .. cause I could manage to solve the cold air issue being hot .. covering the air duct with aluminium tape not entirely cause air is not really ambient cold cold but at least it's something.
But I noticed these hoses being too hot. By the way one is the heater hose and the other one which has like a tip on top ?

dssence 03-04-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedrye (Post 1573395)
I was under the impression that the engine constantly fed hot water through the heater core, whether the heater was on or off. When the heater in the car is turned on, the blower then blows air through the heater core, thus heating the air for your consumption.


IF it's like you say this is terribly badly designed. Casue it shouldn't be letting the coolant from the engine inside the cabin if you do not require it. shouldn be like tihs?

mav1178 03-04-2014 01:21 PM

It's completely useless. It won't do a single thing for you inside the cabin.

One hose has a screw on top because that is a bleed valve, for when you need to flush your coolant system.

-alex

mav1178 03-04-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedrye (Post 1573395)
I was under the impression that the engine constantly fed hot water through the heater core, whether the heater was on or off. When the heater in the car is turned on, the blower then blows air through the heater core, thus heating the air for your consumption.

I don't have a copy of the FSM section that shows heater/AC operation, but most cars I've seen has a valve that "opens" to allow engine coolant to pass through. Otherwise, it remains closed.

If it constantly passed coolant, the passenger compartment would just heat soak by itself over time since there's a functional radiator inside the cabin. But that is obviously not the case.

-alex

dssence 03-04-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1573415)
I don't have a copy of the FSM section that shows heater/AC operation, but most cars I've seen has a valve that "opens" to allow engine coolant to pass through. Otherwise, it remains closed.

If it constantly passed coolant, the passenger compartment would just heat soak by itself over time since there's a functional radiator inside the cabin. But that is obviously not the case.

-alex

Hope is like you say.. that's closed when you do not require it. It's useless to cover these hoses with aluminium tape ?


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