Originally Posted by SirBrass (Post 1564749)

Consider that camrys and accords most likely (I haven't looked up the figures) weigh MORE and come with engines whose bhp output is significantly lower than 200 bhp.

If folks are getting easilly passed by the gas-sipping grocery getters on the freeway and getting pissed over it, then the fault is the with the driver for just mashing the throttle in 6th instead of following the proper steps for correct freeway chastisement of the offending sinner...

Originally Posted by SirBrass (Post 1564749)

Now, against a pretentious v6 Mustang d*bag? Yeah, ain't happening stock. But that's his problem for having so small a manhood that he thinks that he has to fly by a car that was designed to run with much lower HP than his straight-line-only machine.

Originally Posted by SeanBlader (Post 1566931)

But you're saying with the 86, we can't take on heavy-ass v6 Mustangs anywhere but the hills?

Originally Posted by SeanBlader (Post 1566931)

And this. If you're just mashing it in 5th or 6th and hoping it will accelerate, you obviously should just get out of fun cars and go back to your massive turbo sedan's.



I find this a little discouraging, I used to romp on v6 Mustangs on the freeway in my Celica GTS with 20 less HP than the twins. I even had one flip me off once and all I had on it was an exhaust. But you're saying with the 86, we can't take on heavy-ass v6 Mustangs anywhere but the hills?

Originally Posted by s0sl0w (Post 1565882)

Count me as very happy BRZ owner.

You either get this car or you don't and if you don't then just move on because honestly, I'm too busy enjoying it to hear the BS.

Originally Posted by AeroWRX (Post 1567195)

Toyota's biggest mistake was putting a Scion badge on this car. Second mistake was expecting a larger sell rate than they are getting when they sacrificed to take a hit to sales in order to revitalize Scion.

What demographic can pay 25k for a scion? Certainly not the highschool and poor college kids... The well off kids with Daddy's money would buy a $$$ car not a Scion. Who actually buys this car??? Ppl with a full time job and dads who want to relive their rubber burning days

Originally Posted by jkonquer (Post 1567078)

All i really want is 8k rpm redline. I don't care if it had 100 or 500hp.

Originally Posted by jkonquer (Post 1567078)

All i really want is 8k rpm redline. I don't care if it had 100 or 500hp.

Originally Posted by AeroWRX (Post 1567195)

Toyota's biggest mistake was putting a Scion badge on this car. Second mistake was expecting a larger sell rate than they are getting when they sacrificed to take a hit to sales in order to revitalize Scion.

What demographic can pay 25k for a scion? Certainly not the highschool and poor college kids... The well off kids with Daddy's money would buy a $$$ car not a Scion. Who actually buys this car??? Ppl with a full time job and dads who want to relive their rubber burning days

Originally Posted by SeanBlader (Post 1566913)

As much as most of us on this forum hate the Scion xB, and the Honda Element, there are some who see cars as tools with no need for entertainment in their driving. They see it as a purely practical device to carry themselves, their friends, and their crap from one place to another.



The bad part is that you can do all of that with a much more fun to drive car, and I've seen the conversion happen. Dude I used to know had an Acura TL and he thought heated leather seats were as good as it got until he rode in my MR2. Now he drives a Miata, and loves every opportunity to do the spirited mountain drive.

People who have an xB just don't know what driving can be, which is probably better for us, otherwise there'd be a lot more cars on the road, and a lot more crashes in the hills from people over driving their cars.