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subiestyle 02-25-2014 08:44 PM

Clay bar new car
 
So I've read the threads that talk about the terrible paint on our cars.

I just got a white one in a couple weeks ago and was gonna put some sealant on the car.

But should I clay bar the car before the sealant? I'm thinking twice because the clay bar will remove a small amount of the clear coat and I'd rather save that clear coat for when I really need to clay bar the car in 6-12 months.

Atticus808 02-25-2014 10:40 PM

clay it. where did you get this removing clearcoat idea?

that's not true

Alain 02-25-2014 11:29 PM

I clay barred mine. Ask the dealer not to wash it. Felt like junk. It only had 300 miles on when i did clay it

mfbmike 02-26-2014 12:12 AM

Clay does not remove clear coat. lol.

You want to clay before polish, wax or sealant to remove contaminants from the paint which could potentially mar the paint during those processes.

subiestyle 02-26-2014 12:14 AM

i don't mean it removes it completely, but it does remove a layer of it.

mfbmike 02-26-2014 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subiestyle (Post 1557441)
i don't mean it removes it completely, but it does remove a layer of it.

Again, incorrect.

Abrasive polishes/compounds during "cutting" removes clear coat (it actually levels it out to remove defects but yes, does remove some in the process). Sometimes stronger polishes/compounds are needed to remove deep enough swirls/scratches.

Not sure where you read or heard claybar removes clear coat but I assure you, it does not.

subiestyle 02-26-2014 01:35 AM

it does cause microscratches (removes clearcoat)... that needs to be buffed out with polish that will remove a layer of clearcoat.

mfbmike 02-26-2014 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subiestyle (Post 1557614)
it does cause microscratches (removes clearcoat)... that needs to be buffed out with polish that will remove a layer of clearcoat.

You insist on proving your point.

Assuming you're doing it correctly and using enough lubricant or detail spray when claying, you are not removing any clearcoat during that process.

How many cars have you detailed? How many hours have you spent reading up on car detailing to know what you're talking about?

Reading your original post, I'm going to assume you're relatively new to car detailing as a whole.

Again, when used correctly and when used with the proper lubricant, detailing clay bars are not abrasive and will not affect the paint surface with the exception of cleaning it.

Atticus808 02-26-2014 01:24 PM

claybar DOES NOT remove clearcoat at all

unless you mean 0.000000000000000000001 millimetres. then yes it does

Shad0ez 02-26-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1558442)
claybar DOES NOT remove clearcoat at all

unless you mean 0.000000000000000000001 millimetres. then yes it does

Staring at your paint does as well.

Atticus808 02-26-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shad0ez (Post 1559171)
Staring at your paint does as well.

technically the wind does as well

lickitysplit 02-26-2014 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus808 (Post 1559181)
technically the wind does as well

:confused0068: oh noes

Kimsey47 02-26-2014 05:30 PM

I've heard that wax adds weight to the car so be careful when applying as you don't want to take away your performance! ;)

Seriously though... Claybar it brother and get all the nasty crap off the paint before sealing it no matter what your belief in regards to the clear.

subiestyle 02-26-2014 06:11 PM

eh, i got some of the chemical guys light weight blue bar.

my concern is not being able to polish the car if the clay does scratch the car a bit.


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