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RYU 05-09-2012 02:20 AM

More rumors: FR-S Convertible for 2014
 
According to Autoblog it's coming early 2014
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/08/s...by-early-2014/

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With an epic chassis and the lowest center of gravity in the business, there's plenty for enthusiast to love about the Scion FR-S. Except, that is, for those who prefer to take their nimble, affordable sports cars with the roof down. Their choices are rather limited in this price category to the Mazda MX-5 and Ford Mustang, but if the latest reports prove accurate, the FR-S – which is, of course, virtually identical to the Subaru BRZ and sold overseas as the Toyota GT 86 – is preparing to throw its hat in the ring, as well.

Long rumored, a convertible version of the jointly-developed "Toyobaru" coupe could stand to boost sales figures and help the bean-counters justify the expenditure on the new platform. However while the speedster concept recently showcased at Long Beach lost its rear seats (along with most of its windshield), Car and Driver predicts that the FR-S convertible will keep the auxiliary pair in the back – though the addition of a folding roof mechanism would likely mean that would come at the expense of most of the trunk room.

We're told to expect the FR-S convertible to arrive sometime late in 2013 or early in 2014, with a price tag that would tack a few grand onto the coupe's $25,000 MSRP. Look for the same 2.0-liter, 200-horsepower boxer four to carry over with a choice of six-speed transmissions in either manual or automatic configurations. Beyond that, Toyota may be considering basing a larger four-door sedan and coupe off the new platform, which could stand to make the money men back at headquarters – to say nothing of the enthusiasts – even more happy.

2fast4you 05-09-2012 02:37 AM

Bleh. I don't think the bean counters will be too upset when the final sales numbers come out at the end of the model year. I think a sportback with a glass roof would be better than a convertible.

Exhaust 05-09-2012 03:45 AM

Why stop at making it convertible? No power bump? Maybe im just being impatient.

ESBjiujitsu 05-09-2012 10:06 AM

im interested to see a real rendering done by toyota or subaru because the few i have seen I have not been all that excited about..... but i do miss my convertible s2000 :sigh:

Laika 05-09-2012 10:41 AM

I think I was more excited about the FR sedan mentioned at the end. Maybe I've been spending too much time I'm BMW's and lusting after a Toyota chaser.

Hopefully in the end this FR sedan will just be a low level Lexus that only comes in automatic. This way I don't have to be tempted to buy another FR

(K) 05-09-2012 10:54 AM

I prefer a T-top or shooting brake over a convertible.

ESBjiujitsu 05-09-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by (K) (Post 205280)
I prefer a T-top or shooting brake over a convertible.

I would love a targa or t top!!! :drool:

ichitaka05 05-09-2012 11:50 AM

Where they got that source? Seriously, 2 BS rumor that never ends in this car are 1. TC/SC & 2. Convertible

(K) 05-09-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ESBjiujitsu (Post 205318)
I would love a targa or t top!!! :drool:

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 145902)
Next news, they're planning to do Targa & Hatch 86

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...argacopy-1.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...IIver2copy.jpg

Put the joke on the side, it's interesting to see that, they're planning to make convertible. iirc, while back, I was talking bout if they gonna make convertible or not

Courtesy of Ichi, of course. Source or not, I still like the idea of a targa over a convertible. That would truly be a 90's sports car revival.

Dimman 05-09-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 205137)
Why stop at making it convertible? No power bump? Maybe im just being impatient.

Slow, slow tease.

RYU 05-09-2012 12:04 PM

Call me crazy but I would sooo buy this!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...IIver2copy.jpg

ESBjiujitsu 05-09-2012 12:08 PM

I would buy either of those in a heart beat :) I would love to see real renders of these using current pictures! Where is a accomplished photoshopper when you need one! very awesome! and i agree the targa top would bring back the early 90s RWD car vibe!:burnrubber:


I wonder what the $ and the damage would be to the structure of the car without that section if you had it done.... nothing like a targa top with a nice roll cage!!! :)

Linseal 05-09-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ESBjiujitsu (Post 205354)
I would buy either of those in a heart beat :) I would love to see real renders of these using current pictures! Where is a accomplished photoshopper when you need one! very awesome! and i agree the targa top would bring back the early 90s RWD car vibe!:burnrubber:


I wonder what the $ and the damage would be to the structure of the car without that section if you had it done.... nothing like a targa top with a nice roll cage!!! :)

I could do it. I'm a pilot, I can fly (lame ID4 quote sorry). Just need a new charger for my computer :/

Exhaust 05-09-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 205330)
Slow, slow tease.

:word:

If there's anything toyota has ever been good at about their cars and model releases, its definitely teasing.

ESBjiujitsu 05-09-2012 12:41 PM

Okay so no body laugh.... this is using MS Paint so I did the best I could. You would think being a CAD engineer i would have photoshop on my computer....but sadly no. lol.

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...-Targa-BRZ.jpg

tripjammer 05-09-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4you (Post 205090)
Bleh. I don't think the bean counters will be too upset when the final sales numbers come out at the end of the model year. I think a sportback with a glass roof would be better than a convertible.

Ah, no, a sportback with a glass roof would weigh more than a convertible FR-S...

Toyota said the AS1 was designed for a convertible from the beginning. We shall see soon how much more it weighs, if it is only like 150 pounds more, all is good.

ESBjiujitsu 05-09-2012 01:21 PM

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...-FRS-TARGA.jpg


Here is a photo I edited from the test drive event i was at.... if only i could of test drove a targa FRS!!!! :) Again sorry its in paint and im not skilled in the ways of photo editing :)

tripjammer 05-09-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ESBjiujitsu (Post 205393)
Okay so no body laugh.... this is using MS Paint so I did the best I could. You would think being a CAD engineer i would have photoshop on my computer....but sadly no. lol.

http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...-Targa-BRZ.jpg

No it is ugly and with a targa roof you have to get out of the car to remove or put it on.

Keep the car a coupe or make a optional real convertible\roadster with a powered top. Nobody wants to get out to raise or lower their top..

If Nissan can do it, so can Toyota.

For example...
370Z coupe 3245 pounds
370Z roadster 3479 pounds (powered softtop convertible)

IS 250C 3840 pounds (powered hardtop convertible)
IS 250 3435 pounds

2fast4you 05-09-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 205396)
Ah, no, a sportback with a glass roof would weigh more than a convertible FR-S...

Weight is partly irrelevant in this case; no one is racing a convertible when a hard-top coupe is available. However, a GT86/FR-S/BRZ convertible is going to be a harder sell when competing against the Audi A3, MINI, ANY small BMW, 370z, Mustang, Camaro, etc. etc. A sportback with a glass roof won't too heavy for the chassis, and the possibility of moving the rear seats back a few inches with a taller roofline will increase utility and family friendliness.

TuxedoCartman 05-10-2012 01:13 AM

Want open air? Get a motorcycle.

Now, who do I have to throw money at to get a hatchback FR-S? :drool:

Jay Grey 05-10-2012 01:27 AM

I have a great idea!!! If they can make a power convertible... Why not make a power targa, where it slides back & you still can have visibility threw the rear view mirror. How? Because the targa top is mostly glass (like a tC roof look).

poormans_LFA 05-10-2012 01:37 AM

renders included: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-rendered-news

Scooby 05-10-2012 07:17 AM

Both German Auto Bild as well as Dutch Autoweek report Toyota having confirmed the introduction of a convertible to them:

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/toyot...o-2882669.html

http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/19...a-gt-86-cabrio

Scooby 05-10-2012 10:50 AM

Now Autovisie reports that a spokesperson for Scion in the US also confirmed a convertible

http://www.telegraaf.nl/autovisie/12...briolet__.html

daiheadjai 05-10-2012 02:27 PM

I still think the hatch would be a huge boost to the practicality of the twins.
It would also solve the issue of rear-seat headroom, and adding cargo capacity.
Plus the hot hatch lovers out there would go nuts. Heck, even though they were aiming for 53/47 weight split, maybe a Hatch would put more weight in the rear.

buzznasa 05-10-2012 06:38 PM

Carbuzz reporting that C&D is reporting FR-S getting a drop top
 
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/5/1...-Soon-7708770/

LivingLegend 05-10-2012 07:05 PM

It doesn't look as bad as I thought...

blu_ 05-10-2012 07:06 PM

Yeah they have been dropping this rumor for a while. I don't know how I feel about it, because I really don't think their is evidence out there that shows this car was designed to be a convertible from the start. I would put money on marketing people jumping on the bandwagon and making the claims that this will happen and the chassis wont suffer because of it.

track_warrior 05-10-2012 07:10 PM

Now its a direct miata competitor!! Looks like toyobaru is after the whole enchilada.

Spd229 05-10-2012 10:02 PM

Does anyone else see a vague s2000 resemblance?

Guff 05-10-2012 10:05 PM

Looks S2K/DB9 Volante/Miata/MR2-esque with the top on.

ichitaka05 05-10-2012 10:12 PM

All I want to know is where they're getting their "source/rumor" from? Seriously, several dozen time some dbag auto blog quote from our forum... & the thread topic was "things you wish to have in FT86." some members were saying like turbo, SC, AWD & other stuff, and those auto blogging morons took it as real or something & wrote an article stating "Toyota is bringing AWD turbo ver of FT86."

Seriously, where they got the source!

bestwheelbase 05-11-2012 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuxedoCartman (Post 206407)
Want open air? Get a motorcycle.

Now, who do I have to throw money at to get a hatchback FR-S? :drool:

^Seriously. It is just so incredibly good...



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