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Cjymiller 02-20-2014 02:01 PM

Cool ideas for sure. It would seem I only see organized car clubs for retirees and their old school muscle. It would be great if one of us knew someone like that who is a member of an established club, who could tell us how the club is structured, and the benefits and the snags of leadership. Also, with any organization, direction is important and I believe it would be worthwhile to draft a mission statement which can serve as a foundation of the organization.

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sdlynx 02-20-2014 05:15 PM

I'll get some info from a friend who was the Corrado Club of America SoCal president for a while and see what kind of advice he has. He's also a board member for ComiCon in San Diego, so he might have some ideas.

Finch, man, you are definitely at the top of my list as well.

I'll help where I can in the Central Valley.

PMok 02-22-2014 02:32 PM

Bump for the weekend. Anyone else have input they'd like to share. :)


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MyRx 02-22-2014 05:21 PM

I have one haha. Don't elect @MyRx for any position or title. He's horrible at taking office or such positions. He's deferring his consulship to someone who actually wants to do good for NorCal haha.

RC51ed 02-22-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MyRx (Post 1549996)
I have one haha. Don't elect @MyRx for any position or title. He's horrible at taking office or such positions. He's deferring his consulship to someone who actually wants to do good for NorCal haha.


Not @RC51ed , I'm willing to help out as much as I can but I like being in the side lines better. No authority for me. Lol

PMok 02-23-2014 12:45 AM

We will definitely appreciate the help of any volunteers who want to be involved but don't want to take on an official position.

I'd like to hear any more opinions on how we structure the leadership. Based on what I've heard so far, I would propose something like this.

We select one President. 1 year term. President deposits $100 into club fund.
We ask for either 2 or 4 volunteers to be on the board which periodically meets with and advises the president. If we have more than 4 volunteers then we hold elections to determine the 4. Board members serve a 6 month term. Each volunteer board member deposits $50 into club fund. These volunteers should be members of the community who regularly try to attend local meets. That way they are accessible to the members and receive input, as well as can help the president with carrying out activities. As suggested before, when a President or Board member leaves, if there is sufficient funds and the remainder of the board agrees, the deposit will be refunded. Of course the depositor also has the option of relinquishing their deposit and letting it remain with the club if they wish.

I'd like to have the President be able to act without being too caught up in time-consuming meetings. If something needs to be decided, he should be able to email or call the other board members and get approval to proceed. Minimum quorum of 3 (including the president) to participate in the discussion and a majority vote 2/3, 3/4, or 3/5 to proceed. This is a club, not a business so hopefully people will work together and nothing will get too contentious, but the majority vote lets there be some kind of checks and balance.

I'm comfortable with letting the President and Board develop its own other rules and procedures as needed, including preparing and publishing a mission statement or charter. Unanimous agreement by all Board members required to change add or delete provisions from the statement or charter. Obviously if we don't like something they do, we vote their butts out of office. :paddle:

Apologies for the minutia, but I think it's important to hammer it out and have a plan to proceed with. By all means discuss, revise, or reject.

finch1750 02-23-2014 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PMok (Post 1550644)
We will definitely appreciate the help of any volunteers who want to be involved but don't want to take on an official position.

I'd like to hear any more opinions on how we structure the leadership. Based on what I've heard so far, I would propose something like this.

We select one President. 1 year term. President deposits $100 into club fund.
We ask for either 2 or 4 volunteers to be on the board which periodically meets with and advises the president. If we have more than 4 volunteers then we hold elections to determine the 4. Board members serve a 6 month term. Each volunteer board member deposits $50 into club fund. These volunteers should be members of the community who regularly try to attend local meets. That way they are accessible to the members and receive input, as well as can help the president with carrying out activities. As suggested before, when a President or Board member leaves, if there is sufficient funds and the remainder of the board agrees, the deposit will be refunded. Of course the depositor also has the option of relinquishing their deposit and letting it remain with the club if they wish.

I'd like to have the President be able to act without being too caught up in time-consuming meetings. If something needs to be decided, he should be able to email or call the other board members and get approval to proceed. Minimum quorum of 3 (including the president) to participate in the discussion and a majority vote 2/3, 3/4, or 3/5 to proceed. This is a club, not a business so hopefully people will work together and nothing will get too contentious, but the majority vote lets there be some kind of checks and balance.

I'm comfortable with letting the President and Board develop its own other rules and procedures as needed, including preparing and publishing a mission statement or charter. Unanimous agreement by all Board members required to change add or delete provisions from the statement or charter. Obviously if we don't like something they do, we vote their butts out of office. :paddle:

Apologies for the minutia, but I think it's important to hammer it out and have a plan to proceed with. By all means discuss, revise, or reject.

I would prefer longer terms for board members as the possible high turnover rate would make event planning difficult. I would prefer a year term for board members. I would also encourage a 2 year term for pres. The resoning is you need consistancy throughout event planning with the board members and I feel the president should have a chance to improve upon an event by having another opportunity at it. I can understand the want for short terms, but if abuse of power is an issue we could incorporate recall voting based upon x number of members creating a petition.

PMok 02-23-2014 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by finch1750 (Post 1550741)
I would prefer longer terms for board members as the possible high turnover rate would make event planning difficult. I would prefer a year term for board members. I would also encourage a 2 year term for pres. The resoning is you need consistancy throughout event planning with the board members and I feel the president should have a chance to improve upon an event by having another opportunity at it. I can understand the want for short terms, but if abuse of power is an issue we could incorporate recall voting based upon x number of members creating a petition.

I see your point about the board members and 1 year term would be fine. The pres I am not sure I agree about the 2 year term. If a pres does a halfway decent job the first year I think it would be easy to win a reelection. I'm not suggesting any term limitations so if we have a kickass pres he or she could continue on indefinitely. I realize some dark horse challenger could come along and upset things, but assuming the pres didn't make a mess of things, I would imagine he or she could continue to serve on the board if desired and that would help ensure consistency/continuity in the leadership.

I'll raise another question here - should ownership of an 86/FRS/BRZ/AE86/Toyota/Subaru be a requirement to serve as pres or board? At time of selection or throughout their term? I would submit NO but perhaps others would disagree. Just looking to the future, not everyone keeps their car forever and that might be one way to keep a valuable and contributing member who otherwise might be disqualified.

finch1750 02-23-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PMok (Post 1550758)
I see your point about the board members and 1 year term would be fine. The pres I am not sure I agree about the 2 year term. If a pres does a halfway decent job the first year I think it would be easy to win a reelection. I'm not suggesting any term limitations so if we have a kickass pres he or she could continue on indefinitely. I realize some dark horse challenger could come along and upset things, but assuming the pres didn't make a mess of things, I would imagine he or she could continue to serve on the board if desired and that would help ensure consistency/continuity in the leadership.

I'll raise another question here - should ownership of an 86/FRS/BRZ/AE86/Toyota/Subaru be a requirement to serve as pres or board? At time of selection or throughout their term? I would submit NO but perhaps others would disagree. Just looking to the future, not everyone keeps their car forever and that might be one way to keep a valuable and contributing member who otherwise might be disqualified.

I can understand that, just more food for thought regarding consistency of some kind.

In terms of ownership I believe that at some point you should have owned a twin, but current ownership is not required as long as you are still active at meets and on the boards. How we define that on paper idk, but I dont want someone elected and then they just disappear. Lol

PMok 02-25-2014 02:20 AM

I hope this doesn't just become a 2-man conversation between me and finch LOL. I really do encourage people to voice their opinions, here or at the meets in person. Not just about the rules and procedures part of it, but what would you like to see the Owners' Club be able to do for you the members? If you can't think of anything right now, no worries we will continue to ask you throughout the year. :)

Also as I understand it (please correct me if wrong) we have only one candidate up for the title of President -- @finch1750 (Stockton). Does anyone else want to put their name in for the job? :)

For the board, I have the following individuals who have either volunteered or been nominated (minus those who have declined):

@BigFatFlip (Alameda)
@BunnyRZed (Sacramento)
@leicaboss (SF)
@NorCalGirl (Daly City)
@PMok (Hayward)

Anyone, please let me know if you are interested in being on either list, or also let me know if you wish to decline and I'll take you off. After we finalize these lists (let's say deadline of Weds night 9PM to apply), we will see what we have and determine if we need to hold elections or just ratify the names in place.

1SIKFRS 02-25-2014 06:09 AM

Hey everyone! First and foremost great idea PMok! Thank you for taking the time in starting out this thought process....

For those who don't know me, a little background:

My name is Mark. I own a Raven 13' 86. Originally from the Subaru scene and known as
STI RUSH on the suby boards. Mainly present in Hayward, Pleasant Hill, Benicia, Vallejo and Fairfield and Travis AFB. I have coordinated or helped coordinate meets, bbq's, install days Fairfield/Vallejo/Pleasant Hill.

I'm open to donating and volunteering.


IDEAS:

Key Member from each key area in NORCAL to coordinate WEEKLY meets.

Key Member to coordinate MONTHLY NORCAL meets.

Key Member for quarterly/bi annual meets.

Key member for annual meets.

--- Board Members meet each month

--- People on the board are owners/volunteers who "WANT" to do it

--- VOTE/POLL should be taken into consideration when more than one owner/volunteer who "WANT" the same position.

Those considering taking any of those positions should be expected to:

Uphold some core values. I.E. Integrity, Excellence, Service (or whatever is community decides)

Make a reasonable amount of donation. (just cause most people who invest take it more serious)

Well those are just my few cent's. Alright folks, see you all soon!

Very Respectfully,

1 SIK FRS - MARK
DEF'SIK_J-STATUS

NorCalGirl 02-25-2014 07:50 AM

Adding to the idea from @1SIKFRS.. (Wattup Mark! lol) If part of the board.. I think monthly meetings would be great to stay caught up on events, etc.. I just ask that we schedule them in advance or set a specific day of the week such as every 3rd Tuesday of the month at a set time... such as 7:30pm? (which would actually be ideal for me since I'm in and out of town every other week, plus I have to be in town for a work meeting the same day anyways) that way it is a pre-set date for each month.. or if that's too much we could do every other month... The location for the meeting could rotate between the different parts of the bay area and the representative of that location could be responsible for finding/setting up the actual location for the board to meet. Just a thought...

1SIKFRS 02-25-2014 08:09 AM

We can also do phone and/or video conference calls if people are not able to make it....


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