JDL Headers Flex joints
 

Hi,

I am new to this forum and need some help on headers, I have just picked up a new BRZ. I was doing some research on UEL headers and have ended up with either JDL UEL or Rev works UEL. Since my guy can only get his hand on JDL, I decided to go with JDL. But when I looked at the picture of the headers I see that the headers have Flex Joints. Would those effect the sound? I wanted a straight headers back system.

My plan of my exhaust set up:
JDL UEL Headers
Invidia Overpipe
Invidia catless frontpipe
Greddy CS GTS ver.2 Catback

Does this make a complete header back exhaust?
as for the over and front pipe, good idea to go with invidia, perrin or JDL? Does those pipes effect sound also?

Thanks in advance! :thanks:

Yes, this makes a complete exhaust (headers + headerback).

ALL those pipes will affect sound and you're going to drone and rasp like hell without resonators. As far as front pipe choice, you'll be fine with any of those selections.

Going full catless means it's going to smell too... The flex joints won't really affect sound though I don't think.

- AdrianG

you will need a least one cat on your exhaust system to sound great
fully catless sounds like shit!
here a test I did during the installation of my header...the sounds:barf:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-sp6P_CUk"]Scion frs JDL UEL Header+Catless Frontpipe=RASP - YouTube[/ame]

Since you're buying both a front and an over pipe I'd checkout nameless performance downpipe. Get the catted for noise issues.

JDL makes great products. Won't go wrong with that header

Don't know much about that catback.... I'd look for something on the quiet side since a header adds a lot of sound volume.


Good luck

I have the exact setup you have listed except I have the Invidia N1 Catback. I am catless and I am running e85. I can smell the e85 every now and then, but it is not at all annoying. I run with my windows down most of the time. Also my car has little to no rasp even being catless. The raspyness really can depend on the catback. The resonator in the N1 midpipe and the dual mufflers of the N1 seem to work great for reducing rasp but still giving me a super loud and super rumbly exhaust note.

Running the N1 with the same setup above except an Invidia catted front pipe. No smell, nice deep bass-like rumble. 0 rasp. Love the sound.

The flex joints are because JDL observed a lot of engine movement in their testing, even at low rpms and idle more than most cars they work on. The lifetime warranty and high quality of JDL makes it all worth it. Also, great coating options!

My understanding is that a high flow catted front pipe gives away only ~1hp compared to a catless front pipe....but you'd gain better sound, less smell, less pollutants. Similarly, you'd probably wanna get a resonated catback as well to control the sound better.

^^ 1hp at most if it's a good high flow cat.

Thanks for all the replies. Just ordered all those parts! Went with JDL headers JDL front n over pipe and Greddy CS GTS. All for about $2700. The JDL parts are coming in a week and half and the Greddy is going to take 6 weeks!! Will post a vid of the sound as soon as I install it. Also wondering, since I will be have no cats, would this cause a CEL? I really don't want a tune to delete the CEL since it will void my warranty. Thanks!

Well sorry to break it to you but you chose the wrong parts if you didn't want a CEL let alone having to tune the car to get rid of them. JDL has no cats thus you will get a CEL...amazing product but they don't have a catted version yet...

They do have a catted version of the EL headers if you wanted to go that way instead.

In order to really have any benefits of "any header" and exhaust you need to tune anyhow that's always been the case. If in event you don't want a visible ecu flash change then you may want to look into an OFT tablet and contact shiv for a tune to get you squared away.

Oh damn so they finished it for the EL then nice... Hope they get around to doing the UEL as catted since Speedfactory seems to be the only quality UEL that's catted and gets rid of torque without a tune...

What makes you think that a Open flash tune is any less visible than any other tune? It's not and any tune can be flashed back to stock for warranty fraud if that's your concern.

Just sticking with the Catted EL as far as i can see. We're very busy with what we have on our plate already. :)

Most will check for how many times the ecu was flashed especially with warranty work... i think when it concerns engine failure etc...

Well that's news to me is all there Freddy, guys in oft threads rave about the whole "back to stock" thing... I (don't know I don't have oft btw)...And if that's case then the OP can go with whatever. Me personally if I'm going to mod I already accept warranty items may be questioned or refused and don't give to Fs??

drive by & cold start videos or never happened.

All kidding aside, I'm depending whether if I should add UEL headers to my current M7 Cat Back (similar canister design to the Invidia N1), but I'm somewhat worried about the car being too loud. With this said, I fucking love the deep and bassy rumble of a Boxer engine- especially the the EJ engines in the WRX!

Yes! I honestly don't mind the smell and love the sound of catless exhausts. Other than my BRZ I have a 2011 C63 with longtube headers and no cats, but resonated and I gota say I love the sound it makes. With the set up you have does it idle loud too? Or just when u step on it?:burnrubber:

What's a good tune for the car? As I have no experience in ECU tuning, my c63 was the first car I played with and I got a intake, tune, and header as a package deal. All the choice he gave me was 91 or 94. So if I'm getting intake and headers separately would I have to tell the company that I'm doing the tune with what I've got on my car and plan to install for a proper tune?

Is it possible to fraud warranty by flashing back the ECU? I've heard from a friend of mine that owned a WV CC, he had a API tune which is lockable. Anyone know any for the ft86?

I have had mine in for warranty work (with E85 in the tank) I just asked them not to touch my ECU and obviusly NOT to clean my car haha. They won't look into the ECU if it is not needed and if you are up front with them.

My apologies. I will get some done tonight :thumbsup: