Full engine teardown picture thread. Taking requests. (PICTURE HEAVY!)
 

As many if you know I had suffered engine failure many months ago. I have finally managed to take the time to do a full engine tear down. Every last bolt has been removed, tagged, and bagged. I figured as crawford was the only one to do this previously and they were directly told not to post any further due to not paying for sponsor status I would forward the offer to take any photos that anyone may want to see of any components before I re-assemble over the coming weeks!

I will be taking a few standard pictures of the damaged components in my engine but if there is anything that anyone is just curious about I can attempt to arrange to take quality photos of them. I shoot professionally and will be setting up a small setup for snapping some pictures of things. I'll try to get as many requests as possible but I am also fairly busy over the coming weeks.

I will attempt to take pictures over the weekend / early next week. So please post any requests you may want in this thread!

P.S. full build thread coming soon! :)

Okay I did a quick lighting setup in the kitchen... Here are a few photos of some failed parts.

Piston #3: seized rings and many pits
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0471.jpg

This is where the rings are compressed and seized
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0472.jpg

Misc abrasions signs of friction
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0473.jpg

Piston #4: Lots of pits, note the edges being discolored
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0474.jpg

Piston #2: Failed cylinder. Multiple impact marks. Piston touched head & valve. Exhaust valves are bent in this cylinder. Rod broke below wrist pin and put 2 large holes and one very small hole in the block. Rings are seized and face seems to be slightly warped. Piston contains many cracks.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0475.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0476.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0479.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0480.jpg

Note that the piston seems slightly warped from this angle
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0481.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0482.jpg

Piston #2 Bearings
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0488.jpg

Misc DI's (Sorry they got dirty POST removal!)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0489.jpg

Spark plugs: In order from cylinder 1 on the left to cylinder 4 on the right. I may have mixed up 3 & 4 but they look nearly identical. It is quite obvious which cylinder failed in this photo... :)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0490.jpg

Intake Manifold & CPC Solenoid
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0503.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0504.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0505.jpg

Note the injector clamps i installed on the vacuum hoses that came loose during forced induction. These are not factory.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0510.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/_B9A0512.jpg

Reserved #2.

How do the piston tops look or was there too much shrapnel in the chambers to tell? From your review thread it sounds like you would have been detting for a while so i would expect the piston top to be pitted...

Yes quite a few pits, especially around the piston edging. My engine let go at a low revolution luckily so the shrapnel was minimal. All four pistons are "mostly" in tact. One piston did slap a cylinder head and bent a valve. However it was minor. I actually just noticed the valve was bent as I was posting this.

Two pistons has seized rings, one piston had damage from hitting a head, and all four had pits. Although considering the conditions it was actually a lot better than I expected! I'll have photos of the pistons likely tonight. I just have to finish up a few things at work right now and then go pickup some cloth or something to shoot against.

pics of heads? better yet, while you have them off could somebody in the community maybe help you have them flow tested (unless you already have contacts for that)?

Cams info? Ton's of speculation on those here on the forum without much info.

I know you are busy and on a budget so if you can't do that stuff no worries. Just thought I would throw it out there.

I'm interested in seeing your build. Which pistons and rods are you going with? Are you doing anything to the block, heads, valve-train, cams, intake & manifolds, etc?

Just for reference here is a thread I found regarding a FA20 build: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28820

Thank you for this - much appreciated by the community. How do the DI seals look on your car (if anything is left of them)? I assume when the car was functional that you shifting quite a bit post 4-5K rpm?

X2 on the heads...

Also intake manifold from several angles...do you also happen to have the crankshaft out?

A pic of the DI seals wouldn't hurt either...

What's it cost to get this done these days? I would have to ask some friends as I don't have friends locally to do this. I'm def on a budget ATM as the build is becoming costly but I'm open to the idea.

I spent quite an amount if time over 4k. Seals looked good considering I did have DI pop pre-tune/boost which went away after flashing. I will get detailed pictures of all four for you. One DI has minor damage on what looks like a washer at the base before the seal. May have been from removal as we really had to tug to remove the DI from the cylinder with the failure in it.

A friend has the crank shaft I gave it to him. I will ask him to return it for photo this weekend for you. And every boot has been removed from he engine. Exception two Allen plugs in the block it's self. I even removed the cover from unused the bell housing in the back of the block.

I asked a friend to get me photos from the evening during tear down. I'll post some of those up when I get then. If I get some time I'll start with manifold, pistons, DI system tonight. :)

Lots of parts to list. Custom speced CP @ 11.5:1 CR with coated tops and upgraded wrist pins. Modified Carrillo 1200hp h rods... Upgraded valve springs likely upgraded valves now that some are bent and I'll be treating a number of oem components. I have spent months sourcing parts and doing research it'd been a pain! But I am getting closer. I still need to buy a few parts. I won't be shooting for the sky as I don't want to do a custom transmission and diff setup ATM as it's quite costly. But it should put down nice numbers. Basically whatever my turbo maxes out at. Or the fuel system whichever comes first. :)

Sounds bad ass! So you're getting rid of the supercharger and going with a turbo setup ? :clap:

Figure ill give it a try. If I don't like it I'll likely go back to a vortech race unit and just raise up the rev limit so I still get rational MPG. :)

I just want to be able to give a fair comparison to both on this car. I honestly absolutely loved my supercharger and I swear by the setup I had. But for the money im investing into a bottom end I feel a turbo will better suite now that I can self tune. I am more biased towards using the supercharger though I feel it fits this car better.

You won't regret it bro! :party0030: What are your HP/TQ goals?

225WTQ at every RPM for normal driving & spirited driving. But I plan on having "fun" mode. :)

this guy has good photography skills btw

I honestly don't know what flow testing costs, but that's why I was hoping somebody in the community could get you in touch with some options or better yet do it on the cheap. There has been tons of speculation if the heads will be a problem flowing enough at high RPM or for high HP in general.

Post #2 updated with a few piston photos.

If someone in the SW region owns a shop and wants to flow test them ill pay shipping both ways! :)

Never mind this guy as no skill at all :slap:

Post #2 updated with Rod 1 bearings, DI's, Spark plugs.

P.S. My friend (Owner of Good Speed Performance in Arizona) has been helping me assemble my engine. He is sending me pictures of him doing clearances. :) I will post those in the other thread very soon!

The heads will take me a few to take pictures of. And I want to disassemble them. I'll take some pics tomorrow of them mostly assembled though. What else do we want photos of guys? :)

I'm picking up the intake manifold on my way home this afternoon and will get lots of detailed pics of it hopefully this evening. I talked to my friend who has he crank and he said he can bring it by tomorrow for photos. :)

Any more requests?

Damn nels... You know how to use a camera

Thank you so much for doing this! This is a HUGE help to the community. I have a few requests if you don't mind. How about pictures of the heads at all different angles. More importantly, I'd really like to see the ports- both exhaust and intake. Also, pictures of the split block at all angles would be nice too. Are the camshafts going to come off? I'd really like a good look at the AVCS units.

Thanks for everything!

FYI on Crawford, so anyone don't get confused. Several members (both non-vendor & vendor) reporting it vendoring without pay, but mods & admin didn't see any issue on posting those internal parts of the engine. Just in case, our boss just give them heads up, IF they do start advertising, they need to pay. From there Crawford went berserk.

Anyways on-topic, DAYUM! That's pretty bad. My heart was aching looking at it, I'm pretty sure it was same for you. If I may ask, how was crank area? (Crank shaft, bearing, & etc)

Pic of the inside of the timing chain cover?

Your welcome! :) I am going to run out and pickup a different lens that I leant a friend over the weekend right now. Then I can take pictures of half assembled heads. Currently they still have the valves installed as I have not removed them. Once I remove the valves I will gladly take some detailed photos of the ports. As I would need to remove the valves to light the ports up nicely.

The cams are free, however the AVCS units are still attached. I have not looked at them much. I can grab photos of at least the free cams and possibly remove the avcs internals if it isn't too much work.

I'll try and pickup the block later this week as I am making a trip right now to pick up some of the engine components for photos but the trunk will be a tad too full to transport the case halves. But I can get those late this week, at the latest this weekend. :)

Thanks for clarifying what happened. All I knew was what crawford had said so I wasn't quite sure. And the crank I actually didn't look at with too much detail but it actually didn't look too bad. I offered the crank to a friend and he was going to have it inspected. I am trying to meet with him today to see if I can pick it up so that I can take some pictures of it. I'll grab the bearings while I am out as well as the block is still sitting under the car. (it is not stored at my home at the moment)

I'll pick up the cover this morning while I am picking up the intake manifold! It is pretty covered in grease from when the engine went so I need to give it a quick clean up before putting it in the car. I should be able to post pictures of this in the afternoon!

Wait did you mean the cover its self (which contains oil pump etc) or did you mean under the cover showing the chain on the block? I should have a cell phone picture somewhere of the chain on the block but the engine is currently in individual bags at the moment. In about 2-3 weeks I should be installing the timing chains again and will gladly take photos of what it looks like when everything is installed if that is what you were asking for.

Both would be great!

Also, some pics of the valves, springs, retainers, buckets, and rocker arms, pretty please.

Thanks a ton man!

Also, a link to your review thread that @mad_sb mentioned?

Sure! Once I pull the valvetrain out I will take individiual pictures. That may not be until next weekend though. I do have all of the rocker assembly loose though I can take some photos of that 100% this afternoon!

The link is in my signature. Click "WTF happened to nelsmar's car thread"

:bonk: I have signatures tuned off. Looking now.

I mean the actual cover itself, the inside of the peice that you remove (rather large cover!). It looks like a nice peice of engineering.

Sure I will take photos of this. :)

I got a bit tied up yesterday but I picked up the manifold for photos in the evening. I will take some photos of that and a few other parts this evening!

So this happened because you were running the car at 360 whp @ 11.5 psi on stock engine + stock internals?

Full engine teardown picture thread. Taking requests. (PICTURE HEAVY!)
 

This happened because toni provided a bad tune


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Ooooh right ok, now I remember.... he was running too lean for quite a while right?

Post #2 updated with intake manifold, CPC solenoid, and vacuum lines that typically need to be clamped down for forced induction applications.

Yes please look at my review thread in my signature for more details. There is a dyno plot showing my AFR.

Sorry for the slow updates! I have just been busier than expected with work :(