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Sportsguy83 02-14-2014 11:18 AM

Laptop with fastest flashing time (Ecutek)
 
We've been debating for some time about what "cheap" laptop/tablet device to get to flash.

I am looking not for the cheapest, but for the FASTEST in flashing. (I have a Mac and my sole purpose with it is flashing that IT).

Please leave out the OSX vs Win discussions, that's what off topic is for.

Also don't tell me "flash via bootcamp, parallers, vmware, et. al" I have already tried all and what I'm looking for is to reduce flashing time from the current 3-430 minutes it takes on my mac.

First world problems, yes, but when you are fine tuning the car, it means you have to flash the car 3-4 times in one run (I've been doing so the whole week) and that means 112-16 minutes of doing nothing in the car..
Even worse, on the dyno it can mean 1 more hour of dyno time $$$$

Please add your current flash time and specs on your device.


:thanks:


On to the list:

Samsung Ativ Pro Tablet- 1 min flash time tops. Closer to 45s.

Dell Venue Pro 8 1:30

Lenovo Miix 2 (tablet)- 1:35

Asus T-100 (tablet): 1:30

Bootcamp/Parrallets etc. (Laptop)- 3:30-4:30

Lenovo 2 Yoga (not-pro) 1:10

.................

SirBrass 02-14-2014 11:33 AM

Asus T-100 (tablet): approximately 1 to 2 minutes

I'm on my phone so if I make mistakes, blame Sportsguy83

Sportsguy83 02-14-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirBrass (Post 1528752)
Asus T-100 (tablet): approximately 1 to 2 minutes

I'm on my phone so if I make mistakes, blame Sportsguy83

Would you be able to time it next time :D

LOVE your signature BTW :bellyroll:

SirBrass 02-14-2014 11:44 AM

When @nelsmar sends me another map, sure.

I'm on my phone so if I make mistakes, blame Sportsguy83

350matt 02-14-2014 12:04 PM

add a usb 2.0 hub to your laptop and connect the EcuTek cable via that

it'll greatly reduce the flash time

Sportsguy83 02-14-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350matt (Post 1528835)
add a usb 2.0 hub to your laptop and connect the EcuTek cable via that

it'll greatly reduce the flash time

I was 2.0

SLOW ASS really bad.. like 5 minute flash!

Sportsguy83 02-14-2014 12:08 PM

From the other thread, relevant info

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bg8780 (Post 1528793)
I'm speaking ONLY on theory here but I'd say the biggest factor off speed when it comes to flashing a ROM is probably your machines storage device (SSD, HDD)

I say this because @Sportsguy83 said his friends tablet flashes pretty quick. I'm sure the tablet is running a very decent SSD. Since the ROM that is being flashed is coming from the main storage device, this makes sense. Unless, the ROM that is being flashed is cached in the RAM. Then this is a different story.

I'm just thinking aloud. I could be completely wrong. I just upgraded the SSD in my Macbook recently to a much faster one, so I'll have to see if I notice a difference when I flash next. That won't be for awhile though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1528829)
I definitely agree the SSD plays a huge part (but not all). I went from a regular HDD old laptop and that flash was ridiculously slow....

Then I went to a Mac with SSD and lowered it to 3-4 minutes.

But now I want the cake and keep it at about 1 minute with a SSD modern Windows device. :D


mad_sb 02-14-2014 12:27 PM

I suspect it is more to do with the usb "chipset" than anything else. The ecutek driver probably plays nicer with certain chipsets than others. I don't buy the storage system argument at all, your talking about a file that is less than 2 megs in size, unless the file read process used by ecutek ludicrously inefficient the drive should not matter.

pheoxs 02-14-2014 12:47 PM

Agreed its on your storage speed rather than the computers raw power.

My little netbook that is 3-4 years old just has upgraded ram and an SSD in it and flashes in about ~1.5 minutes IIRC

stugray 02-14-2014 12:57 PM

I cannot imagine that the speed has anything to do with the "host" computer.

A typical ROM file is 1.25 MB (1310720 bytes or ~10,000,000 bits)

Even the old USB 1.0 specification, which was introduced in January 1996, defined data transfer rates of 1.5 MB/s.
So in 1996 you could transfer an entire ROM image in under 10 seconds.

For a flash to take >2 minutes across an interface that can transfer the data in a couple of seconds, means that it is the target that is the bottleneck.
So which USB interface or what Hard Drive you have on the host has nothing to do with it.

I am guessing it is the Flash memory write times combined with the handshaking that takes so long.

Deadspool 02-14-2014 01:04 PM

Im using an samsung ativ pro tablet, 1 min flash time tops. Closer to 45s.

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/c...XE700T1C-A03US

SirBrass 02-14-2014 01:18 PM

For $1200, it had better (nice overall laptop)

I'm on my phone so if I make mistakes, blame Sportsguy83

OrbitalEllipses 02-14-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirBrass (Post 1529019)
I'm on my phone so if I make mistakes, blame Sportsguy83

:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:

Sportsguy83 02-14-2014 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 1528966)
Im using an samsung ativ pro tablet, 1 min flash time tops. Closer to 45s.

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/c...XE700T1C-A03US

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