Which turbo kit is better for turbo upgrade?
 

sooo... which turbo kit is better for turbo upgrade? since some turbo set up is like beside the tranny:iono: so can i upgrade those turbo ?:cry:
right now im looking at Full Blown,Avo and Ptuning........
which turbo kit would you guys suggest me if im going for turbo upgrade afterwards?

thanks :D:thanks:

Why wouldn't you just buy the turbo you want to begin with? But out of those avo is definitely the least upgradeable, full blown the most, and ptuning somewhere in between.

Fa20club I'm upgrading soon :)

Full blown imo.

Avoid FA20club, it'll only help you upgrade the car after the fireball.

Is because all the piping and set up :c
And why is AVO the least upgradeable?

I just hit 545hp on the fa20club kit no problems with that kit everyone is good tho

Fullblown. Go fa20club if u want your car stolen, on fire or blown up lol

The Frozen North

why is that? 0.0..........something wrong wtih fa20club?

Have a venture to the vendor review forum and have a read about them.

Oh man here it goes again lol... If you need anything pm me lol not going to be part of this again lol

Hey it's boring and cold up here, what else is there to do lol

The Frozen North

:lol:

The FA20Club kit is perfectly fine. The bashing on them needs to stop. I have had no issues getting anything I need from Toni. Hell I even got a nice little in expected pkg from them yesterday.

well tbh Im new to this forums so I seriously dont know nothing about what exactly happened so....... dont get my thread involve in this:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

I still need help with deciding which turbo kit is the best for future turbo upgrade... Thanks:thanks:

again, why would you buy something knowing that you're going to want to upgrade later? why not just get what you want to begin with?

and to answer your question, the avo is the least upgradeable because of the turbo position and the fact that it uses a fairly small, oddball turbo for which there are not many suitable replacements (mitsubishi something-g i believe), whereas the other kits tends to use more common garrett turbochargers that offer a more straightforward upgrade path.

I said it earlier because all the piping and set up :cry::cry::cry:and i dont know how!
so i was thinking to get the piping and set up and later on when i want more power i could just upgrade the turbo for more power.:D:D

i can't make sense of what you're trying to say. you mean you want to just buy the piping now and get the turbo later? i don't think anyone sells turbo kits minus the turbo.

A good in between would be PTuning. Nice large turbo that you can crank up the boost on...youll be able to suck 500 whp out of the GT30 no problem. you could also upgrade it to a GTX35 if you wanted in the 650+ whp range. If you want more, buy a supra or something. This chasis is scary enough past 350-400whp...

Yeah they do!! I hear its really cheap and Im not sure why they call the turbo kit, "piping" odd choice of letters if you ask me.:iono:

I'm at 545 and scarred everytime I WOT lol

i would be too at 25psi on a stock block lol.

Oh im sorry ill reword that.... ummm
Im trying to get a turbo kit that i could possibly upgrade the turbo later :cry::cry::cry::cry:AND i cant just buy the part that i wanted because i dont know the set up and piping works.:bonk::bonk:

C-Spec and USDM-Spec are just way too over price for a car thats almost 20 years old....... all Twin Turbo Supras average price is around 35~40K so...why not get a new car that i wouldnt have to worried about all the leaks and little problem and just focus on tuning :iono:

The piping will stay the same if you are upgrading the turbo, unless you are pushing some stupid huge 100+ mm turbo. then the piping miiight need to be a little bigger. I highly doubt this engine would put out enough oomph, due to the displacement, for the piping to need to be any bigger than it already is.

FBM got 700 whp out of a built short block and the regular piping from their stage 1 kit, using just upgraded injectors, inter cooler, and turbo. Piping on all these turbo kits are more than good enough for a turbo upgrade (within reason).

Most of these kits have turbo options as well. They are also designed to work with different sized turbos. FBM stage 1 has options for a GTX28 upgrade. Bigger? wait till your wallet refills, then buy a GTX30 (71/76) or a GTX35 (at this point you would need to upgrade more stuff to have the engine keep up with the amount of boost from the turbo, i.e. injectors and inter cooler).

PTuning will start at a GT30 and can upgrade (has the space for) a GTX35. Not sure about AVO, or Revworks or FA20Club, someone else will have to comment about those.

the part i'm not understanding is the 'i cant just buy the part that i wanted because i dont know the set up and piping works' bit.

by the time you try and squeeze 600+ whp out of this motor, safely (that is key) without it blowing up, you would be at the same price point of a supra. cost of the car + 15-20k into it for the supporting mods, not to mention engine work and installation (unless you can basically rebuild a car by yourself).

Ok so you said noone would sell a kit wihtout a turbo, so all im trying to say is......im getting a turbo kit so i get all the piping ready for future turbo upgrade....
does that help?:cry:im sorry its still bit hard for me to word stuff sometimes

Well im just not going something crazy like 700 whp with a built block. just simply want at least 200~300HP range as daily driver. And thanks now i have better sense about the full blown kit

And not going to squeeze 600+ on this stock engine and tranny :D:D
Thanks :thanks:

no problem. based on my own observations and preferences PTuning is a wonderful kit, pricey, but well worth it in my opinion. FBM is amazing quality as is AVO. @jamesm can attest to the Revworks kit.

Revworks kit quality is great. As good as anything else out there. Ptuning is also great, but the price is a little much when you start adding it all up, and you don't even get a gtx turbo iirc. I'm also not a fan of all that intercooler piping and the turbo location. I like how they include lots of little machined pieces that are pretty, but you pay a pretty penny for them, and what that's worth to you is a personal decision lol.

Fbm kit is also high quality, very easy to tune, but has well-documented cooling issues. The fans the kit comes with are really cheap and insufficient, but they offer solutions to solve that problem. Their base kit is a pretty good deal if you stay with the gt2871r. Just budget some extra money for cooling shrouds and maybe some better fans.

MAP's new kit is also looking nice, but it's a journal-bearing (I think) oil cooled turbo and you have to hack up the crash structure to fit it.

KAB's kit is coming soon... Very nice but I'm not sure what the price will be.

We're definitely not short on good options at this point.

If revworks can get their kit out at the price they want to it'll be the value leader. Not the cheapest kit, but probably the best value for what you get.

tbh i dont like the Ptunings piping and turbo location either :S and the red coated pipe....:cry: i guess Ptunning is off the list now.......
now just Vortech,Revworks and Full Blown !:iono::iono:

You're right the PTuning kit doesnt come with a GTX turbo (standard GT3076 im pretty sure), but they tried one on the prototype and while it spooled earlier, they said it actually lost 3-5 hp on the top end (weird). I havent seen KAB's kit yet. by any chance do you know what base turbo they might bring to the table?

JDL looks to be a well put together kit iirc.

They also offer black and polished.

oooooo...that looks really fun :drool:

Your making me re think my turbo kit preference now...damn you just when I thought I had it all figured out lol@Sportsguy83

The piping is almost too simple to believe...

:bellyroll: you welcome!! :D

Can I see your dyno chart? Im just curious on what it looks like. Im at 471hp @16lbs and my dyno chart is posted in the dyno thread and I didn't see yours unless I missed it.

Notice any cooling issues yet?

I have Robispec Radiator/Oil Cooler. Did 35 Dyno passes two weeks ago, sometimes five back to backtoback, oil temp did not go over 205.

It sounds to me like you are stuck in the mindset of WRX/STI/Supra owners who often change out their turbos as they upgrade their cars. This car doesn't come with a factory turbo and so it isn't limited in the way those cars are. You are buying a complete kit here, so get the turbo that will ultimately meet your end goal. You can always run less boost if you want to.