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Sportsguy83 02-10-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1517798)
I'm going to assume because of the inch long piping you get max boost before 4k rpm...what were the ambient temps that day? (Doubt you can remember, Doesn't hurt to ask lol) How's the fitment with the larger rad, tight fit or more like snug fit? If this kit comes in below Ptuning's pricey kit I'll sell my kidney for one.

Max boost is between 4300-4400 RPMs. I have .82 backhousing, .63 is more popular with this turbo and this car and that would hit full boost sooner.

IIRC the dyno showed 80 F temp.

The fit is TIGHT!

cdrazic93 02-10-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1517818)
Max boost is between 4300-4400 RPMs. I have .82 backhousing, .63 is more popular with this turbo and this car and that would hit full boost sooner.

IIRC the dyno showed 80 F temp.

The fit is TIGHT!

Damn she tight...

Lol ok. Many hopes for a 35r upgrade...not going to hold my breath but...

Because jet engine.

Sportsguy83 02-10-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1517829)
Damn she tight...

Lol ok. Many hopes for a 35r upgrade...not going to hold my breath but...

Because jet engine.

Well, the kit was designed with a 6266 in place, so I think it should fit a 35R

cdrazic93 02-10-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1517854)
Well, the kit was designed with a 6266 in place, so I think it should fit a 35R

you keep peaking my interest, and making my wallet metaphorically thinner. Thank you :D

MAPerformance 02-10-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1517200)
Revworks kit quality is great. As good as anything else out there. Ptuning is also great, but the price is a little much when you start adding it all up, and you don't even get a gtx turbo iirc. I'm also not a fan of all that intercooler piping and the turbo location. I like how they include lots of little machined pieces that are pretty, but you pay a pretty penny for them, and what that's worth to you is a personal decision lol.

Fbm kit is also high quality, very easy to tune, but has well-documented cooling issues. The fans the kit comes with are really cheap and insufficient, but they offer solutions to solve that problem. Their base kit is a pretty good deal if you stay with the gt2871r. Just budget some extra money for cooling shrouds and maybe some better fans.

MAP's new kit is also looking nice, but it's a journal-bearing (I think) oil cooled turbo and you have to hack up the crash structure to fit it.

KAB's kit is coming soon... Very nice but I'm not sure what the price will be.

We're definitely not short on good options at this point.

If revworks can get their kit out at the price they want to it'll be the value leader. Not the cheapest kit, but probably the best value for what you get.

Our base kit is journal. But you can upgrade to any Precision BB or run any Garret turbo on our kit as well.:thumbsup:

lexusb3 02-10-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabron757 (Post 1517779)
Can I see your dyno chart? Im just curious on what it looks like. Im at 471hp @16lbs and my dyno chart is posted in the dyno thread and I didn't see yours unless I missed it.

My old one is posted I'm waiting to scan the official one and post it up here with video an all stay tuned :)

2JZ-GTE 02-10-2014 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew20195 (Post 1517629)
They also offer black and polished.

well okay then red coating isnt a problem but still dont like the location of the turbo :cry:

2JZ-GTE 02-10-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MAPerformance (Post 1517978)
Our base kit is journal. But you can upgrade to any Precision BB or run any Garret turbo on our kit as well.:thumbsup:

Thanks ill look into MA too :thanks:

2JZ-GTE 02-10-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1517797)
It sounds to me like you are stuck in the mindset of WRX/STI/Supra owners who often change out their turbos as they upgrade their cars. This car doesn't come with a factory turbo and so it isn't limited in the way those cars are. You are buying a complete kit here, so get the turbo that will ultimately meet your end goal. You can always run less boost if you want to.

I guess im stuck in the mindset of Supra owners :D:D:D read my name :lol:
I konw Scion FRS/Subaru BRZ doesnt comes with turbo and im buying a complete kit with turbo that will make roughly 250~300HP !! and yes i know i can always run less boost :thanks:

woode 02-10-2014 09:01 PM

If I could do it all over again I would be buying the JDL Designs kit. Looks like the placement on everything is well thought out, welds look great, lots of turbo options, etc.

FA20Club is probably the worst buying experience of my life, and the quality is junk. There are a couple fans on here who he has done right for, and they have had success, but I have a full PM box of people with similar stories to mine (see review forum) asking for lawyer and attorney general claim numbers so they can file as well.. I can assure you Toni will not be in business all that much longer.

mike the snake 02-10-2014 10:48 PM

I went with Full Blown. I wanted 350+ eventually, so I splurged and got their premium kit GTX28R turbo, full 3" exhaust, clutch, oil catch can, methanol injection, bigger fuel pump and injectors, oil cooler, all which, depending on the fuel used I think would be good for 350-plus WHP.

I've had problems with the fans and clearance, but we've worked through this, and I'm happy with the car, it should be finished this week.

I can say that I'm happy I went with Full Blown because their customer service has been awesome. They've worked with me through everything, and that speaks the loudest to me.

They responded to my messages and calls quickly, and took care of everything immediately, made me new parts and replaced parts THE SAME DAY I contacted them, overnighted stuff to me.

I know if I have issues that they'll be taken care of quickly, and with no hassle. I know of one other outfit that cannot do this, and I don't know if any other outfits can respond as quickly. I do know from experience that Full Blown is solid and has great customer service.

That's my 2 cents, I'd go with their premium FB kit, the V-band clamps makes going to a bigger turbo very easy, and I know the company stands behind their product and will see you through to the end.

PTuning has a different layout, P&L makes what looks like a nice kit, AVO looks to be a good kit but not for BIG power.

If you're going for more than 300whp, you'll need to look into the extras like clutch, radiator, oil cooler, fuel pump, injectors, etc.

protpibe 02-10-2014 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 2JZ-GTE (Post 1517129)
Oh im sorry ill reword that.... ummm
Im trying to get a turbo kit that i could possibly upgrade the turbo later :cry::cry::cry::cry:AND i cant just buy the part that i wanted because i dont know the set up and piping works.:bonk::bonk:

That's a terrible idea. You're going to cheap out just to get your car boosted, then yank the turbo and upgrade it later. You're going to save like $500 on downgrading the turbo only to spend $500 to re-tune your car once you upgrade?? It doesn't make any sense. And on top of that, what if your upgraded turbo doesn't bolt in directly to where the "placeholder" turbo was?

Just wait until you have enough money to do it right the first time. Short term thinking will end up costing you more down the line.

hmong337 02-11-2014 02:28 AM

Like the OP, I'm also in the game for a good 260-280whp on low boost, 94 octane, and stock internals. The kit that ticks all my boxes is the AVO kit. The placement is genius and literally OEM like the fa20dit. As well, the mechanical oil pump is quite clever avoiding having to run an electrical oil pump that could possibly fail. As others have stated, there isn't much head room with the avo kit. The turbo is rated only to 380hp maxed out. It's something like a td05 Mitsubishi turbo and pretty small. But it's perfect, IMO, if your goal is +/-300hp. Perfect for the stock motor too.


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